Dan G Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 What are they:Here are some nice ones:I make it a D9sus4 (is that right?) Works well in the key of Eminor.e---0-----B---3-----G---0-----D---4-----A---5-----E---x------I think this is C#9. Used in dream theater's 'Take the Time'. Lovely.e---0-----B---0-----G---8-----D---6-----A---4-----E---x------This one I made up myself and the chord position can be used anywhere and moved about the fretboard. This would be used as the A# chord (VI) in the key of Dminor. It sounds beautiful. I think its an A#7sus2. e---5-----B---6-----G---5-----D---8-----A---x-----E---x------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Originally posted by Dan Loaded This one I made up myself and the chord position can be used anywhere and moved about the fretboard. This would be used as the A# chord (VI) in the key of Dminor. It sounds beautiful. I think its an A#7sus2. e---5-----B---6-----G---5-----D---8-----A---x-----E---x------ That could be an Fmaj add4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 C slid up.e---0-----B---8-----G---0-----D---9-----A--10-----E---x------ Nice variation on De---0-----B---3-----G---2-----D---0-----A---0-----E---x------ That's two that are in favour just now, can't let you in on the cool ringy made up ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spook Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 That D is part of the introductory riff for REM's find the river.I like add9's as in :e------3b------3g------0d------0 G add9a------2e------3ande---3b---3g---0d---2 C add9a---3e---0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Originally posted by Tav Nice variation on De---0-----B---3-----G---2-----D---0-----A---0-----E---x------ That's a Dsus2. Very common chord, play about with it a D and Dsus4 and you'll be surprised the number of songs you'll recognise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted October 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Originally posted by Tav C slid up.e---0-----B---8-----G---0-----D---9-----A--10-----E---x------ Nice variation on De---0-----B---3-----G---2-----D---0-----A---0-----E---x------ That's two that are in favour just now, can't let you in on the cool ringy made up ones. The first works out as a G6 (but with no 5th)And Ian is right with the Dsus2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Atom Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 How about this little diminshed guy!?!?e---3-----B---4-----G---3-----D---2-----A---x-----E---x----- Works really well moved up or down in minor 3rds i.e.e---3-----B---4-----G---3-----D---2-----A---x-----E---x----- e---6-----B---7-----G---6-----D---5-----A---x-----E---x----- e---9-----B---10---G---9-----D---8-----A---x-----E---x----- etc... Try laying some of these chords down (this example is in E minor i think..) then messing about with the symetrical(sp!?!) whole tone/half tone scale over the top e.g. e--3--5--6----5--6--8----6--8--9----8--9--11-- etc....You can get some really cool little ideas from a combination of those dim chords and this little beauty.God I love having a guitar lesson on the same day as one of these threads appears.... gives the illusion of me actually knowing something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stuartmaxwell Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 e---------C---------G----------C-----------G-----------C------------ C tuning rocks like fuck but also has a lovely ring for mellownessD---------A---------F----------D-----------A-----------D------------ the same C tuning in D tuning that is very melodic but can rock like fucki obviously dont know the right names but who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted October 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Originally posted by Spook That D is part of the introductory riff for REM's find the river.I like add9's as in :e------3b------3g------0d------0 G add9a------2e------3 That isn't an add9, its just a G.For it to be a G add9 there would have to be an A note in there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Originally posted by Dan Loaded That isn't an add9, its just a G.For it to be a G add9 there would have to be an A note in there somewhere. like?e--5b--3g--0d--0a--2e--3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Originally posted by Tav like?e--5b--3g--0d--0a--2e--3 Yip, that would be a G add9, if you can play it. If the A was played down the octave on a lower string the chord would be a G add2, although it would be exactly the same notes. The crazy world of music theory...I've posted this before I'm sure, but this seems like a good time to do it again.Matt's Chord Identifier Very handy thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Televator Operator Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 e---0-----B---6-----G---0-----D---8-----A----------E----------Gm13, Hah! Something to do with adding 6 and 7, beautiful.Used in Shine On You Crazy Diamond, when Gilmour was asked about the chord, he replied with the fact that it was a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Originally posted by Televator Operator e---0-----B---6-----G---0-----D---8-----A----------E----------Gm13, Hah! Something to do with adding 6 and 7, beautiful.Used in Shine On You Crazy Diamond, when Gilmour was asked about the chord, he replied with the fact that it was a mistake. It's not a D13. Matt says it's a Gmin13 which sounds more like it. That's really getting into semantics now though. You could tie yourself in knots trying to name everything like that. Fuck it, it sounds nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Originally posted by Frosty Jack Yip, that would be a G add9, if you can play it.I've writen a riff of two using it with some other chords with added thingies <I don't know my theory too well yet> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 I don't know, whatever happened to good old variations on C, Am, G and F... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 Originally posted by jon I don't know, whatever happened to good old variations on C, Am, G and F... Quite. I think it's easy to get too caught up in complex theory, rather than just play something and see how it sounds. Obviously some basic theory knowledge is good, for example the circle of fifths and relative minors can really help with knowing what is likely to sound good, but a song isn't a quadratic equation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted October 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 I thoroughly agree... though having said that, what I am trying to do at the moment is experiment with chords that sound really beautiful within heavy songs. Chords that sound beautiful and melodic without sounding either happy or sad.If you play a song starting with an A minor or a Dminor, its gonna sound sad. I you play a song that starts with an E or G or D major etc, its gonna sound happy.However if you mix sus2 and 7th chords you can get some ace sounding stuff.For example when playing in the key of Eminor, if a Csus2: e------b------g--7--d--5--a--3--e------and variation of Gmaj7:e------b--7----g--7--d--5--a------e------are played on separate guitars, its sounds awesome; as the major/suspended sound of the Csus2/gmaj7 contrasts with the sad E minor key.I know it sounds geeky and all that shit, but if it sounds good, whats the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Televator Operator Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 Originally posted by Frosty Jack It's not a D13. Matt says it's a Gmin13 which sounds more like it. That's really getting into semantics now though. You could tie yourself in knots trying to name everything like that. Fuck it, it sounds nice. Hah, I managed to find my Pink Floyd book in time and change the chord name and make you look stupid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neil ex Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 i only know the chord names of the standard major and minor chords, for example;D Major2320xxA Major02220xE Minor000220B Minor23442xi just rely on 'the ear', it's the best way, theory is for losers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neil ex Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Originally posted by neil ex theory is for losers just joking like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 My favourite! Tuned to open C x x x 7 3 3then x x x 6 2 2Its a bit of a stretch but it sounds well heavy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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