britheguy Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Engls are fab' date=' but modern Marshalls are not, they seem to have forgotten to include bass nowadays...[/quote']Erm!!....I don't know where you get that idea. I get things falling off the wall and shelves etc with my DSL 50. But it is a different bass (not less) from the JMP 1989 50 watt head I own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Erm!!....I don't know where you get that idea. I get things falling off the wall and shelves etc with my DSL 50. But it is a different bass (not less) from the JMP 1989 50 watt head I own.I get that idea from playing through modern Marshalls, I don't like them. Simple as that Anyone else got a non (new) Marshall valve amp that they are willing to trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Its not like JCM 900's are all that old eh!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 That's a fair point! But I'd say JCM 900's are probably the last good amp that Marshall made... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 That's a fair point! But I'd say JCM 900's are probably the last good amp that Marshall made...I played through one years ago and thought they sounded fucking horrible. Anyway, I dunno how you can judge a 100 watter if you've not been able to crank it properly!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 I have cranked it before at 100w (you can set it to 50w too) and it's bloody amazing, I just don't really have the opportunity or the understanding neighbours...But like you said, you think they soud horrible, so each to their own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britheguy Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 That's a fair point! But I'd say JCM 900's are probably the last good amp that Marshall made...Ah!! Ladies and gentlemen, here we see the dawning of a new myth. Soon it will grow to be huge, and you will be unable to buy into the myth for love nor money. Ebay will soon have a few of these mythical creatures on their site, all going of mega money of course because they are the last of a dying breed.I've heard the same said about nearly every model from Marshall, plexi, bluesbreaker, 1959, 1989, 800's and now 900's. If you care to wait, you will find the same said for DSL's and TSL's etc. However, by that time the mythical giant 900, will be an icon in the marshall legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 If you care to wait' date=' you will find the same said for DSL's and TSL's etc. However, by that time the mythical giant 900, will be an icon in the marshall legend.[/quote']...but still rumped squarely up the bum by the Mesa Boogie Rectifier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Ah!! Ladies and gentlemen' date=' here we see the dawning of a new myth. Soon it will grow to be huge, and you will be unable to buy into the myth for love nor money. Ebay will soon have a few of these mythical creatures on their site, all going of mega money of course because they are the last of a dying breed.I've heard the same said about nearly every model from Marshall, plexi, bluesbreaker, 1959, 1989, 800's and now 900's. If you care to wait, you will find the same said for DSL's and TSL's etc. However, by that time the mythical giant 900, will be an icon in the marshall legend.[/quote']I'm not try to create a new myth about Marshalls here, this is my personal opinion and the reasoning why I am not willing to trade my amp for any TSL/DSL's etc...Remember, I am not really interested in selling this amp as I don't want to be left without one, I am wanting to trade it for something a bit more versitile, preferably a two channel valve combo that isn't a Marshall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 ...but still rumped squarely up the bum by the Mesa Boogie Rectifier I'd have to agree with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 ...but still rumped squarely up the bum by the Mesa Boogie Rectifier I've always found Mesa's to be one dimensional and nearly impossible to find spares for in the uk. Marshalls are like Transit vans, reliable, do the job, not overly expensive and you tend to get out of them what you put into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 I've always found Mesa's to be one dimensional and nearly impossible to find spares for in the uk. Marshalls are like Transit vans' date=' reliable, do the job, not overly expensive and you tend to get out of them what you put into them.[/quote']IMHO the Mesa's are better built, but horses for courses - I wouldn't let my indifferent experience with my JCM2000 reflect on Marshall's fine legacy.Now, Hughes and Kettner - that's my next stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 IMHO the Mesa's are better built' date=' but horses for courses - I wouldn't let my indifferent experience with my JCM2000 reflect on Marshall's fine legacy.Now, Hughes and Kettner - that's my next stop [/quote']I'd expect them to be better built as they're more expensive. Problem is that if something does go wrong as there's no parts distribution for Mesa in the UK its nigh on impossible to get someone to fix it without them ordering the parts from the US etc thus bumping up repair costs.I've never had any trouble with my JCM2000 (hastily touches some wood ) but i know if something does go wrong getting it fixed will be a doddle. Thats why so many touring bands use them, as they're easy to fix. I'm not a massive fan of the H & K either, though Maxi was really complimentary about his one. I've always found Marshall Valve amps to be very flexible in both the clean and distorted stakes so much so that i'm more than happy to let my amp do the talking without resorting to a seperate distortion pedal. And my clean sound is borderline fabulous I've never been happier with a purchase than i have been with my current amp and i've never failed in getting a great tone out of it live either, which for me is the most important part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 I'd be happy to have a Mesa Boogie despite the problems with getting spare parts over a JCM2000. The sound of a double rectifier is very moreish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 ***bump*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartmaxwell Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 i was due to purchase a tech 21however,i made a visit to the MATAMP workshop the other dayits safe to say that a custom built matamp will knock spots off of every amp mentioned on this page. by a country mile.marshall heads are rubbish these days. MATAMP are not and have never been and never will befucking tonei cant wait to get it and lord it over everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 i was due to purchase a tech 21however' date='i made a visit to the MATAMP workshop the other dayits safe to say that a custom built matamp will knock spots off of every amp mentioned on this page. by a country mile.marshall heads are rubbish these days. MATAMP are not and have never been and never will befucking tonei cant wait to get it and lord it over everyone[/quote']I believe fellow forum member Lucky Shot has one coming his way also... I look forward to hearing these beasts of tone!!! 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 marshall heads are rubbish these days. MATAMP are not and have never been and never will beEverybody says that about their new amp. I agree though MATAMPs are good, still like my Marshall head through the rather sexy Marshall 2x12 that MKII sold me ( it sounds marvellous) I have started using my tube screamer a wee bit more though, but that is more down to a change of musical direction (to a certain extent) in Genevieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartmaxwell Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Everybody says that about their new amp. I agree though MATAMPs are good*ahem* MATAMPS are not just good amps' date=' they are GREAT amps. Shitting on marshalls since forever still like my Marshall head through the rather sexy Marshall 2x12 that MKII sold me ( it sounds marvellous) I have started using my tube screamer a wee bit more though, but that is more down to a change of musical direction (to a certain extent) in Genevieve.everybody says that about their new amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 everybody says that about their new ampI've had it longer than 6 months its no longer new but i was being sarky anyways But it does sound great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Check out this guys MATAMP - ORANGE/MATAMP gear, wow! http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v201/DAVESOUNDS/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Check out this guys MATAMP - ORANGE/MATAMP gear' date=' wow! [url']http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v201/DAVESOUNDS/Jeebus o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky shot Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Check out this guys MATAMP - ORANGE/MATAMP gear' date=' wow! [url']http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v201/DAVESOUNDS/Yea DAVESOUNDS has sooo much Matamp/Orange stuff, he also knows his stuff when it comes to his amps etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 An offer is under consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Traded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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