Guest MKII Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Oh my god, there are two 70's HIWATT 100 heads and a 4x12 cab for sale in cash converters!They have the now illegal bulgin plugs mind you(wouldn't this mean it's illegal for them to sell it/let you test it?), but that's easily sorted, someone's in for a nice treat! I wish I wasn't about to go abroad soon! Letting folks know incase someones after some nice old vintage amp(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Oh my god' date=' there are two 70's HIWATT heads and a 4x12 cab for sale in cash converters!They have the now illegal bulgin plugs mind you(wouldn't this mean it's illegal for them to sell it/let you test it?), but that's easily sorted, someone's in for a nice treat! I think the custom 50 is 500+ the custom 100 is unpriced and the cab is about 250! I wish I wasn't about to go abroad soon! Letting folks know incase someones after some nice old vintage amp(s).[/quote']When did Bulgins become illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 When did Bulgins become illegal?I dont know' date=' I just read in various ebay listings and amp forums that they were. There's lots of talk about them here: [url']http://plexipalace.com/plexiboard/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:F9NeJGHNTgMJ:thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php%3Fs%3D6773be8ab5c19b87444d0607ee8fe60f%26threadid%3D79355%26goto%3Dnextnewest+bulgin+plug+illegal&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=4&client=firefox-a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 5Amps per pin and 6 Amps overall is what they're rated at, so you're probably right about not being able to use them as mains. The connectors themselves aren't illegal though.EDIT: Looks like I was right. Cheers for that info, it may come in handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 5Amps per pin and 6 Amps overall is what they're rated at' date=' so you're probably right about not being able to use them as mains. The connectors themselves aren't illegal though.EDIT: Looks like I was right. Cheers for that info, it may come in handy.[/quote']Maybe I should mention it to the shop!? I played through a 1969 Park amp last week, which had a bulgin... nervous, nervous, nervous! So, which ones are, what is it that makes them illegal/dangerous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Maybe I should mention it to the shop!? I played through a 1969 Park amp last week' date=' which had a bulgin... nervous, nervous, nervous! So, which ones are, what is it that makes them illegal/dangerous?[/quote'] They'd be illegal if they were carrying more than 6 amps, 250V as far as I can figure out. (Although I did see someone claiming they'd been downgraded to 50V but I think that might be US). The main problem with bulgins seems to be getting the sex wrong, having a female input rather than male, making the exposed pins live on the male plug. The best thing to do is plug in the bulgin before you plug the 13 Amp into the wall, that eliminates any potential shock hazard (if it's wired well) and also any grounding issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gasss Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 nnnnnnnnngggI'm trying to sell amps MKII! What are you trying to do to me?nnnnnnnnngggggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 nnnnnnnnngggI'm trying to sell amps MKII! What are you trying to do to me?nnnnnnnnnggggggMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM... THAT is sitting waiting to be bought!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartmaxwell Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 fuuuuuuuuuuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 I saw it when I was in last weekI want it...sadly I would get murdered if I took it homeI also want your bassman I don't think its illegal to sell gear with the older connectors, only to make them new (much stricter rules), which is why they have to change those for modern IEC leads on the Marshall handwired amps for exampleDavid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 They'd be illegal if they were carrying more than 6 amps' date=' 250V as far as I can figure out. (Although I did see someone claiming they'd been downgraded to 50V but I think that might be US). The main problem with bulgins seems to be getting the sex wrong, having a female input rather than male, making the exposed pins live on the male plug. The best thing to do is plug in the bulgin before you plug the 13 Amp into the wall, that eliminates any potential shock hazard (if it's wired well) and also any grounding issues.[/quote']I went in again today to check them out. One of the amps has been modified for a standard kettle lead, whilst the amp on top of the cab has the bulgin. It's a female lead, the amp has the three pins sticking out. The safer of the two variations!? Fuck I am tempted!!! But... A 100 watt non master volume(in the modern sense) amp, where are you going to get to stretch that out in Aberdeen!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 HiWattI really, REALLY wish I hadn't read this thread!!!I have this disorder that makes me want to buy musical things.It's quite common.DZL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 I really' date=' REALLY wish I hadn't read this thread!!!I have this disorder that makes me want to buy musical things.It's quite common.DZL[/quote']I believe it's called GAS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Farty-BumAs in Methane or is it an acronym? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 As in Methane or is it an acronym?Gear Aquisition Syndrome:up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Gear Aquisition Syndrome:up:I LIKE IT My mate and tutor are exactly the same, they have houses full of gear although at least "The Sensei" is a pro musician.They're both eBay addicts, so I guess it's contagious o_O DZL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_matter Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 yeah how much is it?! i totally want this now! grr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 When did Bulgins become illegal?Absolutely yonks ago. I was eliminating them from theatre kit back in the late 80s/early 90s It wouldn't be illegal to buy & use them at home but if you were to put one on stage, no insurances would cover you & if you or anyone else got hurt/place damaged you & the responsable person at the venue could well face negligence charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?t=44095&highlight=bulgin+dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gasss Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 nnnnngggggI was wanting to downgrade from an oversized 2X12 cab to a compact 1X12 to save space.But the thought of a massive Hiwatt 4 X 12 is tempting me....nnnnnnggggggggg....sense or ROCK?????[punches self repeatedly] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 nnnnngggggI was wanting to downgrade from an oversized 2X12 cab to a compact 1X12 to save space.But the thought of a massive Hiwatt 4 X 12 is tempting me....nnnnnnggggggggg....sense or ROCK?????[punches self repeatedly]The cab does look in tip top condition, as do the amps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 The cab does look in tip top condition' date=' as do the amps! [/quote']Just STOP it !!!You're driving us up the wall with all these tempting descriptions!Thank god it's not Thursday night or I'd be in the car and straight down there.DZLPs - what time does it open tomorrow o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKII Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Just STOP it !!!You're driving us up the wall with all these tempting descriptions!Thank god it's not Thursday night or I'd be in the car and straight down there.DZLPs - what time does it open tomorrow o_OWhats that? A Les Paul Custom through a HiWatt, wow, that'd be heaven!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gasss Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Just STOP it !!!You're driving us up the wall with all these tempting descriptions!Thank god it's not Thursday night or I'd be in the car and straight down there.DZLPs - what time does it open tomorrow o_OI'll fight you for it!Outside Cash Converters at 9am!Oliver Reed and Alan Bates style! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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