David Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 ...then to find that Fender Japan seemingly uses differently sized parts to the rest of fender, so the fender switch and cts pots I ordered are too big for the control plate on the guitar, of course, after you have removed the old electronics to make way for the new parts.Bloody fantasticSo its off into town tomorrow in the hope somewhere has a tele control plate, and that it actually fits the damn guitar, and the parts I have for it.So for the moment I have a tele with no controls or electronics, I may just wire the singlecoil to the selector and use it that way if I can't get hold of the bits I need soon...Damn you fender, and damn you japan for seemingly having different sized parts from the rest of us...David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 That's a pain in the chuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Doubt Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 unlucky hope u get it resolved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Sorry for making an obvious point, but isn't this the sort of thing you check before diving into a wiring job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Well when you buy Fender branded parts for a Fender guitar, I made the huge jump of logic in assuming that said parts would fit the guitar. being made by the same company and bought as a tele wiring kit. I will give RnB a call today and see if they actually have any new control plates in stock and will check to see they actually fitDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Never assum cos it makes an ASS out of U & ME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Never assum cos it makes an ASS out of U & METhat would have been funny if you spelled assume correctly :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 My bad. haha... never noticed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Well when you buy Fender branded parts for a Fender guitar' date=' I made the huge jump of logic in assuming that said parts would fit the guitar. being made by the same company and bought as a tele wiring kit. [/quote']See, in Japan, they have the metric system, they wouldn't know what the fuck a quarterpounder is. I had hassle getting a replacement screw for one that I lost out of my US tele for this reason, but the baldy guy from R&B who died a couple of years ago was kind enough to give me a replacement free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lime ruined my life Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 ...then to find that Fender Japan seemingly uses differently sized parts to the rest of fender' date=' so the fender switch and cts pots I ordered are too big for the control plate on the guitar, of course, after you have removed the old electronics to make way for the new parts.Bloody fantasticSo its off into town tomorrow in the hope somewhere has a tele control plate, and that it actually fits the damn guitar, and the parts I have for it.So for the moment I have a tele with no controls or electronics, I may just wire the singlecoil to the selector and use it that way if I can't get hold of the bits I need soon...Damn you fender, and damn you japan for seemingly having different sized parts from the rest of us...David[/quote']this happened to me too, i took a saw and a drill, and i made them fit. I find it hillarious that fender have "official" switches and pots which cost ridiculous money, only fit the most expensive fender guitars and they're no better than any other standard switches/pots, and in some cases a lot worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 this happened to me too' date=' i took a saw and a drill, and i made them fit. I find it hillarious that fender have "official" switches and pots which cost ridiculous money, only fit the most expensive fender guitars and they're no better than any other standard switches/pots, and in some cases a lot worse.[/quote']I would take a drill to the control plate I have, except for the fact I don't know what its made of. So it could be stainless steel or something and come out fine, or it could be chrome plated something or other leaving me with the plating chipping off...The fender switches seem decent enough, and the pots I got are CTS, which seem to be regarded as some of the better ones (incidentally also used in some fenders, including my mim bass) so all the parts seem solid enough, and I would rather use tham than have to switch to the mini pots like were in it before or whatever...David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Sorry for making an obvious point' date=' but isn't this the sort of thing you check before diving into a wiring job?[/quote']Like using the correct tools for the job? Like not routing out a guitar with a fucking hammer or whatever it was you used to hack it apart with Awesome guitar regardless, and even better with the new pickup, it will have to be prized out of my cold dead hands. (and even moreso when I actually get controls on it again, rather than the bridge pickup wired directly to the jack...)(BTW, before anyone starts an argument, this post was mostly tounge in cheek)David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 True... Although at the time of the job, I hadn't really intended on selling the guitar... ever. So meh What pickup did you put in it anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 True... Although at the time of the job' date=' I hadn't really intended on selling the guitar... ever. So meh What pickup did you put in it anyway?[/quote']Hell, you can't see it from the outside so its fine with me. It's not as if it affects the sound...I put in an SD Phat Cat, a humbucker sized p90. I wasn't completely happy with the JB so went for this for a more singlecoiley type sound, but with balls, which it has. Definately recommended.Can't really say exactly what it was I disliked about the JB, kinda muffled sounding to me if that makes sense, the Custom I just put in my other guitar sounded much nicer to me. Just what I like I guess, the JB seems to get great revews elsewhere.David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 I didn't like the JB either, although, I just had it sitting around and planned something else later. Wish i could of afforded to keep that guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lime ruined my life Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 I would take a drill to the control plate I have' date=' except for the fact I don't know what its made of. So it could be stainless steel or something and come out fine, or it could be chrome plated something or other leaving me with the plating chipping off...The fender switches seem decent enough, and the pots I got are CTS, which seem to be regarded as some of the better ones (incidentally also used in some fenders, including my mim bass) so all the parts seem solid enough, and I would rather use tham than have to switch to the mini pots like were in it before or whatever...David[/quote']The fender switches have an inherent design flaw in that it is open. You get closed ones which by design are already shielded (well tele ones are in contact with the control plate so it's grounded, strats could similarly be grounded via a wire or a metal scratchplate) imo this is a mere marketing excersise so people end up buying more expensive usa fenders which have better sheilding in the cavities.i stick to alpha pots although i have nothing against cts, i just find alpha easier to get ahold of and i don't trust fender electronic parts, although i find the mini pots useful for pedals as you can cram more inside smaller enclosures, i havn't had a prooblem with them. The only pots i've really found to be really bad are the ones found in the black russian big muff, i think they're sovtek, in any case avoid them.while on the topic of sd pickups, i wouldn't reccomend the lil 59' either. I'm not entirely happy with the hot rail but it is a pretty specialist pickup. im going to avoid sd in future, my next pickup is going to be the standard strat pickup from bill lawrence, it's really highly reccomended and pretty cheap considering they're hand made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 The fender switches have an inherent design flaw in that it is open. You get closed ones which by design are already shielded (well tele ones are in contact with the control plate so it's grounded' date=' strats could similarly be grounded via a wire or a metal scratchplate) imo this is a mere marketing excersise so people end up buying more expensive usa fenders which have better sheilding in the cavities.i stick to alpha pots although i have nothing against cts, i just find alpha easier to get ahold of and i don't trust fender electronic parts, although i find the mini pots useful for pedals as you can cram more inside smaller enclosures, i havn't had a prooblem with them. The only pots i've really found to be really bad are the ones found in the black russian big muff, i think they're sovtek, in any case avoid them.while on the topic of sd pickups, i wouldn't reccomend the lil 59' either. I'm not entirely happy with the hot rail but it is a pretty specialist pickup. im going to avoid sd in future, my next pickup is going to be the standard strat pickup from bill lawrence, it's really highly reccomended and pretty cheap considering they're hand made.[/quote']I went for a Fender switch because it was open...Shielding is not an issue, as I just shielded the guitar myself, and in the past I got a closed switch and it has been horrible and crackley and basically useless, an open switch being a lot easier to give a quick clean.CTS pots I got after hearing they are one of the better brands, I thought they were a separate brand from Fender though, just used by them.I didn't really like the JB pickup I had, but the Phat Cat I just put in sounds awesome, as do the Custom and Stag mag I stuck in another guitar, top marks to them from me...David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lime ruined my life Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 I went for a Fender switch because it was open...Shielding is not an issue' date=' as I just shielded the guitar myself, and in the past I got a closed switch and it has been horrible and crackley and basically useless, an open switch being a lot easier to give a quick clean.CTS pots I got after hearing they are one of the better brands, I thought they were a separate brand from Fender though, just used by them.I didn't really like the JB pickup I had, but the Phat Cat I just put in sounds awesome, as do the Custom and Stag mag I stuck in another guitar, top marks to them from me...David[/quote']i'd never buy SD again, although i have heard good things about the phat cats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 i'd never buy SD again' date=' although i have heard good things about the phat cats.[/quote']Fair enoughChecked today, the control plate itself is the same size as a US one, so I can buy a generic replacement to get a plate with the correct hole sizing. So I should be getting that ordered up soon then get the guitar finishedDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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