The Subtle Arts

Serves you right for buying a piece of shit blu-ray player 8-)

to cut it short. regardless of what it may look like, we litterally broke up days before this happened. we are just really pissed off this didnt happen round about the time we formed. sae la vie.

Ahh ok, was going to say it would have been very un-punk of you guys to quit because of this.

Florida isn't 8 hours behind though.

Aye forgot that's PST, 5 hours behind it is doh!

You reckon he could finish a gig in Aberdeen, fly to London, get a plane to Miami, go through immigration etc etc and then get taken the 50 or so miles to Pampona Beach in time to do an outdoor show?

I think I'll have some of what you are on.

I really can't see this going ahead and have to agree with what Alan Cynic has said. If it transpires the guy who runs Fitzpatricks has lied for cheap publicity then a lot of people, well those that even know where it is, will boycott it and it will go down the pan.

It is unlikely but still do-able. 8 hours behind a 4-5 hour trip, would be tight!

So what has happened to Wifebeater? Have they split up because of this or was this just something else?

He can still play in Aberdeen and make it too Florida you know... and in time.

Saw it at a preview on Wednesday at the Vue, It's quite long. It does follow the novel closely which I have only just started reading if truth be told but I can see where the movie can lose you in parts. It's done well, Don't listen to those who have said theres not enough action and theres too much blabbing because thats nonsense.

Even before I started reading the novel just as a film on its own I don't think it misses anything out, it has alot in it and I thought though the ending seemed rushed it was neatly done.

By far best new film I have seen this year.

Hey, here's a novel idea as well. Obviously the music industry is based in London, so how about instead of MOVING to LONDON to MAKE IT BIG TIME, you could maybe, y'know, just play some shows in London, in addition to other places in the UK? So crazy it might just work.

Yeah that works too... did I say it wouldn't? Atleast you'd probably not be playing to an empty room.

If Mylo can be discovered on the Isle Of Skye there's hope for all of us!

And how do you think he got discovered? Do you want to know where he is now and why he doesn't do it anymore? Even Stereoglo also from Isle of Skye did well for themselves, gigged around Scotland made it on the radio and do you want to know why they chucked it in?

Zakk Wylde + James Lomenzo - talked all night about Pride and Glory, Prince Charles, couple of other royal goons, also Jimmy Saville probably a few others but can't think right now.

I think Scott meant... Oooooooh, you're from London.. in a, put the backs of your hands on the sides of your face and wiggle your fingers / Chewin' The Fat stylee, sorta way.

You are coming across a bit high and mighty, considering the bands you are in... and the fact that, well, you're in Aberdeen? London ain't the shit and never will be the shit. I could name quite a few bands who are on labels. That have probably never even been to London... in a band capacity at least. Thought you woulda known better than that dude!!

Not to disagree with the point that musicians/bands do make the pilgrimage. Whether it does them any good is entirely debatable.

Ok Baz, since when is spouting nothing but facts being high and mighty because of what bands I'm in!? That makes no sense. That's like saying hey I play for Bournemouth United yet I know if I want to play at a bigger club right now I have to move... yet your kinda insulting my knowledge as if that fact is false.....

Yeah I'm in Aberdeen and so are you... but for the music? I'm not. If it must be known I stopped playing altogether 4 years ago when I lived in Belfast. I lost all enthusiasm for it and since moving to Aberdeen I was prodded, so decided to pick it up aslong as I enjoy it and dont feel pressure im cool with that.

I couldn't grasp the second half of that paragraph.

"I could name quite a few bands who are on labels." - oook.

"That have probably never even been to London... in a band capacity at least. Thought you woulda known better than that dude!!"

I deducted that these two sentences are a result of bad grammar, otherwise I am sorry I did not know that 'that' or whom had not been to London in a band capacity. For whom it may concern I don't actually know if I should know them either. My bad as they say.

Agree with you on the debate of moving, its expensive, you need back up, determination. And yes I got how and what way Scott meant it. Shock an English bloke in Scotland. "Get a grip"!? lol

Anyway, before this goes way off or someone else comes in on their high horse what I said in my first post in this thread wasn't in anyway flying off topic pointing out a couple of facts. Cities with larger populations generally don't have that much of a problem with venues being filled up. It's not about filling up a venue its what bands are playing and as we established, Downfall aren't doing themselves favours playing ALL the time. They will be playing in a venue with excellent promotion and is hardly empty this saturday night. One man and a box could play there and it still wouldn't be empty.

And then moving on to what I said about bands moving to London to further their careers as musicians must have been the most ludicrus idea to you guys. Probably too far. Perhaps I should get a grip and stop being a dick?!

I thought this thread was started in a weird attempt to drum up promotion for a band someone likes.

You're from LONDON?!!! Do you know all the record company people? Can I have a million bucks?

To bring up an earlier point of yours - the idea that if you're 'serious' as a band, then you should move to London, made me vomit blood all over my laptop until it blew up like a bonfire night fireworks display. Thought you'd like to know.

1. It was indeed started that way but as you can see it went downhill.

2. Yes I'm from London, some and no. I fail to see how the fact I'm from somewhere else means I must be minted. Do you depict me different somehow?

3. Bands generally DO move to London, set up new lives etc etc. ALL THE TIME, not even bands just musicians with the intentions of doing so. This is because the outlet and means exists in the capital. The ACM is the biggest producer for bands, writers and peformers alike for example. Majority of established record labels and industry providing releations are all situated in London. Its not rocket science.

I hope you didn't burn your face too much.

It's cool dude, I take it your not so serious, play the music you love and have the internetz to do the promoting for you.

You get busy and sparse gigs everywhere. I've seen dead gigs in London and Paris and completely rammed gigs in Aberdeen and Dundee. Get a grip.

Get a grip?

Do you think im talking nonsense? I'm from London, I've toured up and down the UK 4 times in 3 different bands since the age of 16. I've worked with various promoters and done promotion myself for other bands in some of the sparsest places in Scotland not to mention worked and helped up and coming Scottish artists on a Channel 4 based project a few years back looking into understanding the blatent obvious.

Yes you get crammed gigs pretty much everywhere, but its not something you can expect all the time, hence why this topic was started no?

Don't ask me to get a grip, I'm perfectly fine thanks.

Use a proxy site...

What a ridiculous post. Why would I go out of my way to go and see a metal band when I'm not into metal?

I'm pretty certain this isn't just an Aberdeen thing either. Do you think the rest of the UK is some utopia where people flock from far and wide to go and see bands from genres they don't like? I'm pretty sure there are metal / punk / indie / whatever bands up and down the country wishing they could get a bigger crowd.

I might have still gone to check them out at some point, but I'm not going to now, and it'll be your fault. Run along now.

Would just like to point out that anywhere else in the UK (Cities) there's substantially a bigger population and definetly bigger crowds. What bands in aberdeen need to do is gig elsewhere for bigger crowds. Aberdeen is laughable like a little village when it comes to crowds sometimes. If bands are serious enough then move to London where you are more likely to get noticed AT a gig rather than leaning on the old myspace/internet trick that every other band does.

Also someone mentioned Downfall have played alot of gigs this year already... no matter what order they play their songs, change it, add new ones people will have seen them before or are planning too. It was probably the usual bad night that occurs once or twice every month in a busy scheduled bands life.

Maybe we could arrange a certain time during the week where we could all play each other? Which days/times are best for you guys?

We could just arrange it and play it all over online... seperate the ps3 users from the 360 ones, each win would have to be validated however.

Saw The Unborn Last night... not bad, thought it was a bit much for a 15 but still felt it was almost as bad as a cheap US TV series show wannabe thingy... ma-jig

Before that I saw RocknRolla - It was pretending to be something it couldn't portrait, but can't out my finger on it. Never got to see that damn painting which did make it that tiny bit more appealing to me...

today, i cracked the 9,000 word barrier on my introduction.

As for a tournament, i'd really love if we could get enough people to hold something offline!

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That'd be cool, I might enquire at gamestation about using the pod as we have done so in the past for Pro Evo tournies.

Gamertag is The Subtle Arts if anyone wants a kicking

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I carry around a pink wallet on me just so when I'm walking by Mcdonalds and just happen to get it out infront of a group of neds, wait for one of them to point it out/make a joke/call me names just as an excuse for me to lamp him/them to make myself feel better and the rest of Aberdeen a safer place.

How playable is this with the standard 360 controller?

It's not bad with either analogue or the d-pad, never have any problems pulling off any moves whatsoever. The PS3 pads are shocking, a d-pad that will give you blisters after 5mins of use and the stick just is horrible to use.

The arcade stick is pretty cool and not tried the actual 360 fighter pads yet as no one can get hold of any!

I was playing it before release, thought it was brilliant. Since release I still think its brilliant... just too many Ken and Ryu users now.

It's definetly broke when it comes to the difficulty curve and yes Seth is more an after thought...

I thought it still captured the essence of the first two games, made me feel all nostalgic inside my pants. Plus being as bloody brilliant and brutal it is - 10x more awesomeness

I like how it is called Deathcore, yet it is probably the pussiest form of death metal.

Don't listen to the scene deathcore tripe, listen to the brutal/tech stuff instead.