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This may sound stupid' date=' but how good can a tuner be? Why pay 80 quid for one, when surely a 10 quid one does the exact same job?[/quote']
That's a good question. I'm sure a 10 quid tuner would do sometimes, but IMO for a live situation it's hard to beat a pedal tuner such as the Boss. You can tuner quietly, you can use it as a mute. I've seen me use it at the start of a song to mute my signal if I'm getting unwanted feedback etc. You just need to kick it in a split second before you hit the first note.
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Hey there Andy. Good luck with that. If you need someone to fill in on guitar or vocals temporarily til you find someone (sort of like a session musician) then give us a shout. Also if you still want to do that acoustic thing we were talking about ages ago then give us a shout.
Take care
Keep jammin'
Simon aka Patch
Hi Simon,
Any luck lately?
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"The general public are also like this. They want to hear songs they know or are familiar with."
Couldn't give a toss what the general public think' date=' what matters is whether learning covers, or building on original ideas is the best starting point for a band.
[b']"I think there is plenty space for all types of bands, cover, tribute and original."
I agree, but if you are planning on playing originals, like the good man Bob said, why waste a lot of time and effort reeling off covers when you could be getting everyones' creative juices flowing?
"Covers are a great starting point to greater things. It's possible that 99.9% of people start this way."
That's fair enough, but it'd seem that I'm one of the 0.1% that prefers to get the ball rolling with an original idea.
"What was the first tune your learned to play...a cover or an original?"
The first thing I learned to play was a random bunch of chords slapped together by a mate to help me get started. I then learned Guns N' Roses - Don't Cry & Tenacious D - Tribute, got bored off my ass, so started writing original material. But that's what I learned as an individual, what's important is what the band does as a unit. I believe the best way for a band to get started is for someone to bring in a riff or an idea, and have the band build upon it.
My 2 cents, Andy
"Couldn't give a toss what the general public think, what matters is whether learning covers, or building on original ideas is the best starting point for a band."
What!!! who you going to play to then, your mates, your folks, the sound man? That has to be one of the most pap things I've heard for years...Well done you made me laugh anyway;)
Without getting into a long drawn out slagging match about what is right or wrong I would have to agree with some of what you have said.
It's a horses for courses thing really. I've played in both a covers band and a band playing original stuff. I enjoyed both. At the moment I play in a covers band because that's what suits myself, and my other band members the best. It just grips my shite when I see someone slagging off the other type of bands off. Namely guys from an original band slagging of cover bands.
One of the best bands I've seen this year was a covers bands -AKA Ska. Good songs played well. Also one of the best guitar players I've seen this year was a young lad playing in a covers band -Stealy Glint.
The last time I played live the set was 45 songs (covers) long. Most original bands I've seen lately play between 15-18 songs. Playing covers is not a lazy boy pastime!
My twapennies worth min!
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read it again homes.
"personally' date=' i don't like..." = personal opinion. deal with it.[/quote']
Well, Dr Watsun not sure where you get the quote "personally, i don't like..." but I do agree that we all have our own personal opinion, but when you state that opinion on a open forum, you will get people that will disagree with you. Live with it!
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personally' date=' i just don't see the point in bands covering songs live, unless it's a 'my first band' outing and that's all they can play, in which case, STAY IN THE GARAGE/PRACTICE ROOM until you're ready to play a whole set of your own songs!
if i'm paying to see a band, i don't want to hear songs i love getting butchered.[/quote']
What a load of self rightous pish!
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Quote from Dieselfeet
'I can understand people buying off the 'Net, but unless it's a significant saving, or something I just plain can't get up here, I'd rather spend that few bob extra and boost the local economy.'
That's a good point. I once got a Les Paul from R&B. It was secondhnd, and I got it for a good price. only a few percent over the going rate for the year and model (from a shop) so I went for the local guy.
However, when I was buying my DSL 50, I was quoted 20 quid more for a new one from Sound Control Dundee c/w free delivery, than R&B were asking for a secondhand one. I asked Russ if that was his best price he said "take it now and I'll knock a fiver off...whoopty-do.
I really could not see the point of buying the secondhand one for the small saving, giving that it would have cost me 15 quid to get to Aberdeen and park up for a couple of hours.
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Joy Division - Love will tear us apart.
Reminds me of hanging out at parties where all the girls had big hair, come to think of it, so did most of the guys.
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I'm in 100% agreement with this. Covers become very tiresome' date=' very quickly. Writing songs as a band is a good way to get a feel for how everyone plays, and it also gives everyone a sense of involvement and achievment right from the start.
Andy
[/quote']I really can't agree with this.
Let me put it like this. We have all been going to concerts/gigs etc for years. We might even walk into a bar if we happen to be walking past and hear a band playing.
Scenrio - So your fav band comes to a venue near you, you go to hear them. They play several of the songs off their first two albums. Great, these are the songs you like best and you know the words and the general feel of the song. However, they also play a few songs off their new album which you've not yet had the chance to buy. Ok you think, these seem ok, I could maybe get to like that. Which ones did you like to listen to best? I would say the older ones which you already knew. The general public are also like this. They want to hear songs they know or are familiar with.
Bands are about what you like doing. Some people want to make a statement, and other don't. To say that covers are tiresome, and that original material is not is just a load of rubbish. Original material is like every other part of music, is just a matter of taste.
I think there is plenty space for all types of bands, cover, tribute and original.
I heard something recently that made a lot of sense and it's this. To play in a tribute band is as hard as it gets because the people coming to hear you play know what the original songs sound like, and expect to hear those songs played as they are on the album.
I've heard original bands play songs live that barely resemble the album version. Now at times this can be great, but on other occasions it can be very, very tiresome.
Covers are a great starting point to greater things. It's possible that 99.9% of people start this way.
What was the first tune your learned to play...a cover or an original?
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I've had more luck with more random musicians.
The mate I originally started my band with turned out to be completely incompatable with me and the random bassist that we found on this very website.
And said bassist has since become a great friend and an excellent band mate. Add one long term mate on drums and I managed to form a band quite easily.
Now I just need to figure out how to ditch the original guy...
Get him to read this thread!
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Getting a band going is not easy, and keeping it going is even harder. Keep at it, something will turn up.
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You've not said if you have changed your string gauge. If you have fitted lighter strings this could cause the neck to straighten out a bit. If you have not changed the gauge just turn the thumb screw under the bridge to lift that side up a little bit.
I've not seen a SG with a high action yet, so don't worry too much about adjusting the bridge....just go for it. Slacked th estrings first to make it a bit easier.
I've found 10's set a SG. I once played one fitted with 8's...it was minging!!!
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Warning we dont do covers!!!
Gies a shout if your interested
is heywah nae a cover:up:
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Hi triggs,
Please check your PM's
Brian
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are ye nae over 35?
Aye Biz, come on your making me laugh....over 25!!!!
I like to sound of smashing up Coldsore records though..
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My Morley Wah.
Possible Marshall 6101 & Marshall Artiste. Nor sure about the amps yet, but if the price is right.
I fancy a Matamp see!!
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Has anyone out there got a pair of bass bins for sale. I'm not too worried about how they look as long as they work and sound ok?
15" or 18". Something like hysis would do.
Cheers
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How much for the SG and what model is it?
Cheers
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i've know someone who can service valve amps etc.
PM for details if you're serious about getting it done.
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I've not seen any reviews yet of the Chinese ones. I like the sound of my ones, but it's a very basic amp (like all vintage ones) so you either like it or you don't.
I wish I still had my Bluesbreaker RI that was a great amp.
I've given up on the switching amps.....too much going on for me to cope with;)
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Ha ha ha ha ha!
I can't believe Vox tried that' date=' but your reaction ("Does this one statement from someone at Vox who has a vested interest in trying to sell as many brand new amps as possible blow the vintage myth out of the water?") demonstrates that it's worth them chancing their arm as some people are bound to fall for it.
Aren't all the AC30s made in China now? Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that, I hear they're good amps.[/quote']
Ho Ho Ho!!
My reaction was not one of doubt as to wether I should sell my amps because new is better etc. However, I was taken aback somewhat by the fool on the other end of the phone whose pearls of wisdom I was having to endure.
Of coarse we have all heard stories about folk selling vintage stuff because it's old and looking scruffy etc. I'm not one of those people. However, I do think that people get hung up on vintage stuff at times.
Yes, I think Vox are made in China know. Also the Blue speakers are made there.
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Don't you dare sell your AC30's and get a modern one. They are not as well built nor do they sound as good as the vintage models!
Don't worry I won't be doing that. Although I was thinking of selling one to raise money for a Matamp.
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Here's some words of wisdom I received last month.
I have 2 early 60's Vox AC30's. I reckoned it was time for them to have a service, so I thought I would call the company and ask for any pointers on what was the best way to go about getting these lovely vintage amps checked over and serviced. The reply
wait for it
Sell them and buy a new one!
So does this blow the whole vintage myth out of the water. Are we looking for something that's not there? I could be wrong but all those new amps like Line 6 etc and the multi fx such as Boss GT series have settings for 'Brit Classic' 'Twin sparkle' etc. I can't remember the last time a saw a setting for 'Bandit Country' or '51st ValveState'
So why is someone working in the parent company telling me to sale my vintage stuff and buy new?????
BTW. Matamp are great. I am at present looking at selling one of my spare, hardly used legs to get one.... 1224 c/w 2x12 cab
The leg in question is well gigged and has a well worn in feel to it.
Don't be fooled by those bootleg copies.
Gibson Les Paul
in Musicians' Corner
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I have 3 LP's
Status Quo - Down the dustpipe
Deep Purple - Made in Japan (Double lp)
Only jesting.
A 1980 custom in CSB - Heavy as a very heavy thing, plays lovely
A 1996 '56 Gold top RI' - lovely sounding P90's and the top is crazing nicely
A 2002 Standard Light Burst - The nicest of the lot. Great tone and not to heavy with a lovely flame top (guess I just got lucky with the weight and top)
IMO the 2002 standards were a vast inprovement over the previous standards from the late 90's etc. The whole QC thing went awol from the 80-90's with gibson. I've noticed that some 03-04 models are showing signs of the QC slipping up again.
If you want a standard try and get a 2002 (I've heard in the grapevine that these are the 59's of the future!!!)
However, also look up Robin guitars. I have one of these and the sound quailty is great as is the finish. Check out the Savoy (335's) or the Avalon (LP) You will find it hard to get that sort of guitar for the price. 1400 quid, but we are talking custom shop quality.
www.robinlovers.com