Lexicon Devil

A'right man, I've got a mate who is choking for one like. I've refrred him here. Is it still about? We're in glasgow.

Edit - Literally just got a text that said he's found one. Sorry!

Nae going to be at the tunnels tonight but need to get a couple, still a few left at one up aye?

You couldn't be more right. Stuck them up just so folk would have something to go by before gigs etc but even we know they're pretty shit. Where did yous record out of interest? We were thinking we might just get Ali from Broken Oath to do them. The guys from Atomgevitter have also been recommended.

New band coming out of Glasgow. Shit as fuck recordings but hopefully enough to give you an idea before we get a proper demo going. We should be making a few cds of these tracks, if you want one for nothing then get in touch and should they come to fruition or mediafire download you shall be informed.

A very intelligent man put us somewhere between Army Of Flying Robots and Shikari, a comprison that's come up heaps although I'm not so sure myself.

Hopefully some of you may already have heard us, if not be as brutal as you want really we've got thick enough skin, hopefully be playing up in Aberdeen at some point over the next few months.

Cheers.

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I recently got this from Tesco, seemed pretty reasonable to me if a little over your budget.

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I think it is really, really good. I have been listening to it heaps and can't get enough. It's a lot less unique, and as such not really the Ion Dissonance sound I was expecting, as you say a lot more meshuggah-esque. However, I've been pretty surprised and no matter how much simpler it is it's just total crushing and violent.

100% agreed. I read heaps about plant based nutrition and know for a fact veg/vegan diets are entirely feasible. I admit there are plenty of really badly nourished veg/vegans but that doesn't mean it's not possible. Plenty of really unhealthy omnivores too, it's just about eating properly regardless of your dietary choices.

I haven't drank milk for nigh on 10 months now I think and I don't see any difference at all. I do eat a fair bit of veg cheese and sometimes yoghurt though so it follows that I wouldn't notice change.

You are right but:

Soymilk isn't naturally enriched with Calcium it has to be added to it afterwards due to the fact that the Calcium content in Soy beans is contained in the beans pulp. So it's void in my opinion, you might as well drink a glass of water with a spoonful of calcium carbonate in it.

Ditto on the Tofu front i'm afraid. It depends what coagulants are used in its manufacture as to whether it is Calcium enriched or not.

I'm always sceptical on the point of things that are supposed to imply a 'natural' source of something when that something has to be added to it outwith nature.

You are right with the 'leafy greens' bit though, i hadn't thought there'd be as much Calcium in things like Broccoli and certain other beans etc. Though what ratio of greens:milk you'd have to consume in order to balance it out would be something worth finding out.

You are of course right and I am aware that the calcium levels in some products aren't natural per se but the point remains that calcium in a vegan diet is entirely possible through their use/without dairy produce. I lent out all of my nutrition books and can't actually check how much greenery you need to consume to get high levels of calcium but if my memory serves me correctly it's not as unreasonable as you might assume.

How are you going to maintain proper calcium levels by cutting out milk from your diet? I'm not having a go or anything, just genuinely interested.

Soyamilk, tofu and certain leafy greens can contain enough calcium to satisfy your needs in a balanced vegan diet.

Kit kats are suitable according to the Nestle site, will have to check that out.

For Masterfoods/Mars, instead of actively deciding to use meat-based products, it is probably much more to do with them switching to the general international market for their supplies & no longer being able to say with certainty that their ingredients are fully meat-free. Because of this, personally I'd be more likley to avoid them because they no longer seem to care where their ingredients come from & have introduced a policy of ethical questionability.

This is probably true. Only the Mars and Snickers actually made in the U.K. (Indicated by first serial code letter "U") are suitable are veg at the moment anyway as the continental manufacturing plants have been using calves for their whey for a while apparently. That puts Mini + funsize mars out anyway, so it's not all that surprising that they've moved to the same practises here.

Thanks for ointing that one out.

It has nothing to do with being a strict or "decent" vegetarian. These bars are not vegetarian in the most basic and true definition of the word so anyone who is a vegetarian will refrain from eating them. Eating calves stomach lining is exactly the same in principle as meat. If people do eat them then it is not a true vegetarian diet and they are not truly vegetarian, end of.

I would love to see him and know of several others that would make it along.

theoretically though, a trigger could play a doubled sample, so you could be plasting with one pedal at half speed...dunno if anyone's tried this though

You're right theroetically although I too have never seen anyone bother. The problem is the sample would only be applicable at one tempo, and only for 16ths double bass.

Kollias does use triggers, at least sometimes. I have certainly got a couple of videos where he does.

For speed check this kid, 17 years old or so. I know it's two foot, but I've never seen anyone hit 270 with the feet and he has got some pretty speedy feet in other videos.

Of course it isn't necessary to let them die in such a brutal way, but I think it's fairly naive to expect any significant extension of mercy in an industry that does after all thrive on the murder and butchery of live animals. As someone mentioned earlier it is surely far more efficient and cost effective to slaughter the dolphins in such a vulgar way, and any company that scores capital from killing animals is going to have dubious capacity for interest in their welfare at the expense of profit. Are you really all that surprised?

The point of a video like this is, and all the others, is to highlight a paticularly extreme case of inhumane treatment. The point is that seeing as it is pure sepculation as to whether the meat you consume comes from an offending abbatoir or not none of us really know what is going on behind those paticular walls and how the meat on your plate came to be. Of course there is gore and shock value, of course such things do not go on like this everywhere, but the point is they do happen. Full stop. These videos aren't staged. And that chance is enough to warrant genuine concern.

And if you are as disgusted with such things as you imply there is a very feasible way to stop contributing to the factory farm industry that is within your power and a lot more rewarding than a rant on a message board. It goes iwthout saying that it is stop buying/consuming meat. No demand = no product, less demand = less product etc. Although I'd wager a bet very few who speak out so vehemently against such videos are willing to stand up to their moral convictions by putting it into practise. If you do, good luck to you and otherwise as I believe Teabags has been trying to say all along you are being pretty hypocritical in being so verbally opposed to such events when you are contributing towards on our own soil.

Sorry for going on at length, and I realise I sound like a total militant cunt etc. But it is a serious issue and I think the point is worth raising in any thread set out to deal with animal cruelty.

Just got one, my tag is Forlani. I'm proper shit at everything.

I really like this tune, and the other one on your demo. It seems you have got your heads down and written a couple of simple, decent tunes (in comparison to your early stuff which I wasn't a paticular fan of). Not the most original, but very enjoyable.

I look forward to hearing some other new stuff.

Cheers for all the replies. We're starting by giving a couple of folk a shot and seeing how that goes, we may well be in contact with you.

I'm not sure who we sound like, certainly look to alot of the "newer" metal bands but don't think Avenged Sevenfold or anything. Try thinking of technical/riff-based metal as well known example indeed being Lamb Of God add some (tasteful) use of various harmonies etc. Some influence from hardcore stuff and the odd nod to more "quest" feeling stuff like Bodom.

Hope that helps,

Thanks again.

Del - I think' date=' though I might be wrong, that a lot of "healthy" stuff is as bad as McDonald's offering. One example - we got some horrible (I didn't order it!) sliced ham in today. On the cover, it says "95% FAT FREE!" along with some rubbish about being useful for diets. Now, unless I'm wrong...that means it contains 5% fat, which is surely fairly significant in the grand scheme of things?[/quote']

It's not as black and white as that. There's more than one type of fat, including both "good" and "bad". If you knew anything about a balanced diet you'd be aware that healthy fats are a major component of your suggested daily food intake. ( 30% being the approximate max)

While I'm sure the fat in that Ham isn't going to be paticularly healthy, do realise fat does not necessarily equal bad. The same goes for Oils etc.

Tonight!

Tonight!

Can't fucking wait.

We haven't played in a good couple of months, really looking forward to doing this.

I'm going to be doing a bit of home drum tracking over the next couple of weeks and would rather use some fair quality mics than a mid-range set. Can anyone recommend a place from which I could rent a few for a couple of days or something?

Cheers.