Trivium are shite. They are over hyped, have a shite bass player, some of the worst vocals i have ever heard, guitarists are nothing special if you put them next to good extreme guitarists ie. Devin Townsend, Chuck Schuldiner, Pat Owen... So what is there to like? Put them against Death, Cryptopsy, Cannibal Corpse, SYL, Dying Fetus and they are SHITE.