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Kartta would like to apologise to everyone for playing horrendously tonight.

Big apologies to Steven Milne in particular.

Kartta are embarrassed.

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what happened? how bad could it really have been?

' date=' post: 461555"']is a lot of it not down to what your playing it through ie. a CD through your computer into some crappy aiwa speakers compared to like a separate amp CD deck and vinyl deck, the latter will make all the difference whether its vinyl or CD or mp3 etc.

i play my music through some decent old school amp and decent speakers, one channel from my computer (with no D/A converter - from my little knowledge i think thats what you do) straight to the amp and it sounds great. I do run my deck direct into the amp and although i think it sounds marginally better, that is probably only due to the whole process...

i'll take the music however it comes though.. mp3 download, CD, vinyl, but i appreciate

it on a slab of plastic the most.

i think it would be cool if you bought the vinyl then were able to get maybe the mp3 download aswell purely for practicality: listening to it in the car on ipod/mix CD etc. if i got a vinyl press i'd be most inclined to do it that way.

there seems to be a growing trend to give a copy of the cd away with the vinyl release for certain artists. shellac do it everytime as does jason molina/songs:ohia/magnolia electric company. it's cool cause you get the aesthetic goodness of having the vinyl but the handiness of having the cd(for putting on your mp3 player for instance).

i like vinyl cause you buy second hand records for 50p. but at the end of the day, i'll take it as it comes. from a business point of view it makes more sense to release something on a format which is most accessible so cd or digital download would probably make the most sense but who wants to think like that all the time, sometimes you have to do things just for fun or because it feels right. there will always be 7inch singles and that is a good thing.

Adobe Elements Range, cheaper but with much the same features

i've used elements and photoshop and frankly elements just doesn't cut it if you want professional standard images. it's great for learning and for basic adjustments but photoshop and the other full version programmes just work.

thanks so much for the response folks, very helpful indeed. at the moment it's just for fun and to help develop my style and general skillsbase. a bit of cross-platform action never hurt anyone so i figure if i can develop some graphic design skills as well as continuing to develop as a photographer i'll be all the better for it. plus photography and graphic design seem to be converging artforms anyway.

a site which i've found particularly useful since starting out is BLUE VERTIGO | Web Design Resources Links

it's a resource site which lists tons of places to get brushes, textures, vectors, fonts and stock photography for non-commercial use. great for practicing.

mon the haho. loving the new song. best pop music in scotland!

incidentally there was a chap taking pictures of the bands, does anyone know what that was for or where we could see those pictures?

Did this happen to you?

yes

it was rather frustrating.

If you're lucky you can book Travel Lodges for 19! Even London ones. NEVER Aberdeen ones though! Worth registering on their site for updates

and if you're unlucky you'll get to a travel lodge at 11.30 after driving all fucking day and they'll have overbooked for the day and then they'll just stand there gurning at you like a fucking idiot pretending like it was a perfectly normal thing for a hotel to give your room to someone else even though you're not late. then they'll book you into a hotel(albeit a much nicer one) which is miles away on roads you don't know and give you absolutely the shittest directions anyone has ever given another human being so that it takes you an hour to get somewhere that should only have taken 15 minutes.

everyone should go see meursault as they fucking rule. i'm sure steven and phil will be awesome too but really meursault are amazing.

Oh, here's the presale link if anyone wants it: The Mighty Boosh Tour 2008 Tickets

thanks so much for that! nice of you to share the wealth

what kind of money might you be after for the acoustic?

heard about that the other day. think we're gonna buy tickets and sell the ones for glasgow we have. word.

we had a great time on saturday by the way. the place was still stinking but everyone was super nice and we felt looked after. tunes were good too

i've not heard much capn jazz but joan of arc and owls are ace.

i thought her name is calla were fucking ace. great sound and really good songs. twilight sad were brilliant as well and i liked the new songs as well. overall it was a pretty grand gig indeed!

i am suffering quite a bit today though.

i fucking would and you know it.

Getting into vector graphics?

I find wikipedia an excellent resource for finding out terms and techniques to search for and Instructables - The World's Biggest DIY & How To Show & Tell

trying to, thought my lack of drawing skill would be a drawback but the ease of editing in illustrator makes up for such things.

thanks for the links!

When I saw Twilights Sad at ABC, I'm pretty sure Rob Jones from Idlewild made an appearance on guitar and keys.

Personally, I agree, you should keep it to the original lineup as much as possible. I prefer them live as a 4-piece.

you mean rod jones.

worked quite well when he did it hope it works similarly for this gig.

hooray say the roses were ace, will have to check out shittalker.

So, do Twilight Sad have two additional live members now then? (including a recruit from Aereogramme?)

I hope this doesn't affect the sound like it did with Frightened Rabbit at Snafu...

anyhoo - anyone advise stage times? Steven? Want to try and catch another gig elsewhere as well.

really? where did you get such information?

might be pretty obvious to some but adobe.com has a ton of useful videos which i've been perusing this morning

http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/video_workshop/?id=vid0044

ah come on now, nothing wrong with a bit of nostalgia. fair enough if it's done to restart an argument but i went looking for that thread because i'd been listening to explosions for the first time in ages and it got me remembering the drummonds gig and i thought others might like to reminisce. what harm is it doing? you don't have to read them.

Yo, I'm trying to learn a bit about graphic design and so i'm trying to learn a bit about flash and illustrator. anyone got any handy tips? any sites or tutorials which are really useful? any books that i simply must get? or you can just link to some inspiring examples if you like.

I also use photoshop and quark xpress. I'm a fairly advanced photoshop user when it comes to editing photos but are there other things it can do on the graphic design front that perhaps i'm not aware of? any tips for quark? is indesign better?

there's no real reason for this other than self-development and it'll look better on my cv to be at least partly capable in these packages.

Neither could Pavement, and that didn't stop them becoming the best band of all time!

Yaay!

Anyway, fair play to the X-Certs (or however it's spelt).

Having known Murray and Jordan for a long time, I think it's very heartening to see them doing what they always set out to do.

I know they would probably cringe if they ever heard me say this, but I've watched them grow and develop for a long time, discovering more and more music, refining what they do, and getting better and better.

I'll go on the record and say that it's not particularly the kind of music that I'm into, but knowing them, if they can keep it together, they will develop and make interesting things happen.

yea! what he said. though seriously, if you don't like them fair enough. i don't get why people are jumping on folk just for daring to not like the xcerts. sheesh. like steven i've known murray and jordan for years as they seemed to live in one up and they're damned good guys who have worked hard for their success and fair play to em.

but different people have different likes and ideas of success and people should respect that instead of jumping on those with differeing opinions be it those attacking stripey for not liking the xcerts and i guess stripey himself for over egging the pudding when he only had to say it wasn't his thing.

he's a cunt. adam and joe is where it's at. and craig charles funk show.