Guest lime ruined my life Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 i have a neck that requires sanding down and re finished.i beleive i need nitrocellulose lacquer, but has anyone else done or know anything further? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 You need nitro. It's used on high end guitars. It wears gracefully and looks good when old. However there are other alternatives that most manufacturers use Urethane. Go to www.warmoth.com and read about their finishing techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 nitrocellulose or polyurethine (not sure on the spellings though) are the two laquers commonly used on guitars, i cant remember which way round it is, but one ages nicely while the other is a stronger finish, one will also react to the rubbers used on some guitar stands and mark if you leave them in contactanother option would be a bare wood finish, i think its tung oil thats usually used to help protect the wood, i know players like zakk wylde and kirk hammet like unfinished necksDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 nitrocellulose or polyurethine (not sure on the spellings though) are the two laquers commonly used on guitars' date=' i cant remember which way round it is, but one ages nicely while the other is a stronger finish, one will also react to the rubbers used on some guitar stands and mark if you leave them in contactanother option would be a bare wood finish, i think its tung oil thats usually used to help protect the wood, i know players like zakk wylde and kirk hammet like unfinished necksDavid[/quote']Nitro is the oe which ages gracefully and reacts with rubber quite badly. Poly finish is harder wearing and really durable. Bare wood and tung oil is a no no in my books unless you want to run the risk of having a pretzel shaped neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamScrooge Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Indeed many players desire an unfinished neck. Including a certain guitarist from around these parts who likes to throw his guitar off stage from time to time... Its not an issue for me personally as I cant play well/fast enough for it to have an effect on my playing but Jemsite has a small tutorial on it:http://www.jemsite.com/tech/t_2mods.htm#necksandOf course, you will still need to finish your fretboard. I recently cleaned up my old squier and accidentally used an abraisive cleaner on the fingerboard which has taken all the oil off the rosewood. Now it feels dry and sticky...but its an old squier and I cant be assed buying the lemon oil. I think its lemon oil you're meant to use... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lime ruined my life Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 cool, chears guys.as far as nitro is concerned, would i be able to buy it somewhere like b and q? somewhere that sint an online specialist place where it costs loads?i heard nitro only reacts with vinyl, not rubber. in any case, does this kind of finish just mean you cant use a stand? anyone know anythign about the techniques of applying the finish? iv got a tutorials, im trying it out on a shitty neck to start with. just thoguht id get a general concensus of the best way to apply.whats the oppinion on finishing on top of the frets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 There are books you can buy on guitar building/finsihing. I got two from amazon and they are great. Tells you EVERYTHING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 cool' date=' chears guys.as far as nitro is concerned, would i be able to buy it somewhere like b and q? anyone know anythign about the techniques of applying the finish? [/quote']Cellulose is an automotive finish that is no longer used in the car industry, new regulations were introduced a few years ago to reduce the amount of chemical solids that are allowed into the atmosphere during paint spraying and as such automotive re-finishers no longer use it.The colours used on early fenders can all be traced back to car finishes.This paint must be sprayed on and I guess there must be a company who supply aerosol cans for this purpose but I don't know of any. Dingbro the motor factors used to supply aerosol cans of any colour you wanted, you would need to know the colour code for them to match it, but I guess its clear lacquer we are talking about here. It might be worth asking if they can still supply cellulose lacquer. They do only deal with the motor trade but you could order it through Autosave...who have branches on King St and the Lang Stracht. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 You do get it in a can.....cellulose lacquer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 i have a NECK that requires sanding down and re finished.QUOTE] Oi, G, you want a shot of my bins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 i have a NECK that requires sanding down and re finished.QUOTE] Oi' date=' G, you want a shot of my bins.[/quote']Ehhh....why?I know it a geeeetar he's on about....but its still car paint they used....When its old guitars I know my shit.....cos i'm old tooooo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Ehhh....why?I know it a geeeetar he's on about....but its still car paint they used....When its old guitars I know my shit.....cos i'm old tooooo.... with a G-raff as your avatar I thought you would've spotted the word NECK in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 with a G-raff as your avatar I thought you would've spotted the word NECK in there.ok, point taken, although some guitar necks are finished in the body colour (not the finger board obviously).....so leave me alone you big bully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lime ruined my life Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 aye, got a little confused there, with all that talk about paint on the neck...il give it a bash with some methods iv aquired from other folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 ok' date=' point taken, although some guitar necks are finished in the body colour (not the finger board obviously).....so leave me alone you big bully.[/quote'] Sorry G, check your PMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lime ruined my life Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 http://www.manchesterguitartech.co.uk/lacquer.htmlsatin or gloss for the maple neck/fingerboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamScrooge Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Er...just since no-ones replied I'd venture a guess on gloss.You see the way Ole Slowhands maple neck glistens in the stage lights in his latest DVDs? Beautiful. Makes the feel of the neck really really smooth too. Indeed, if I didn't dislike the sound of maple necks I'd be well sold on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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