bifta23 Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 so' date=' the cannon is superior eventhough it is cheaper??? and yes, i plan on doing quite a bit of low light level photography...[/quote']try them and see what you like...i took the following with a d70and a wee blip of flash on the next couple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MDP Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 what lens did you have on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bifta23 Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Nikkor 17-55mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig C Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Nikkor 17-55mmMy next purchase. Stunning lens, that is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bifta23 Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 flash has the full bifta lens...Nikkor 70-200mm/2.8 lovely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig C Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Ooooh lovely We just received a 300mm f2.8 L series Canon lens in our work today - FUCKING HUGE!!! Shit hot lens though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MDP Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 flash has the full bifta lens...Nikkor 70-200mm/2.8 lovelythis one: http://www.europe-nikon.com/details.aspx?countryid=20&languageid=22&catId=121&prodId=275 ???if so, HOLY SHIT that is a lot of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig C Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 this one: http://www.europe-nikon.com/details.aspx?countryid=20&languageid=22&catId=121&prodId=275 ???if so' date=' HOLY SHIT that is a lot of money[/quote']http://www.jessops.com/Store/s13802/0/Lenses/Canon/EF-600mm-f-and-40L-USM-Image-Stabilised/details.aspx?&IsSearch=y&pageindex=1&CatId=143&comp=y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 this one: http://www.europe-nikon.com/details.aspx?countryid=20&languageid=22&catId=121&prodId=275 ???if so' date=' HOLY SHIT that is a lot of money[/quote']with lenses you get what you pay for. you could have the greatest camera in the world but it's useless without a decent lens, that's what makes the picture.but yea, they can be quite pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bifta23 Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 with lenses you get what you pay for. you could have the greatest camera in the world but it's useless without a decent lens' date=' that's what makes the picture.but yea, they can be quite pricey. [/quote']this is true...however if you are a poor photographer you are going to produce poor results even with the top of the range kit. just get to know the camera you have inside out and you will have no problems in delivering good images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 this is true...however if you are a poor photographer you are going to produce poor results even with the top of the range kit. just get to know the camera you have inside out and you will have no problems in delivering good images.true story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 flash has the full bifta lens...Nikkor 70-200mm/2.8 lovelyOnly problem is that on any digital camera other that full frame it translates to something like 100-300mm/f2.8...So for gigs the 17-55 and the 10.5 are the lens of choice.Could someone show me how to work a speedgun properly?Those are nice photos BTW, the 2nd and 3rd shots are great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 this is true...however if you are a poor photographer you are going to produce poor results even with the top of the range kit.Which is why I must take around 1000 photos per gig LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 with lenses you get what you pay for. you could have the greatest camera in the world but it's useless without a decent lens' date=' that's what makes the picture.but yea, they can be quite pricey. [/quote']So the moral of the story here RM, is not to blow more that 1/3rd of your total budget on the camera. And remember that in addition to the camera and lens, you'll need a bag, a flashgun, and probably a memory card too.The truth is that you'll probably only notice the difference between say a D70 and a D200 under fairly extreme conditions, such as those encountered in The Moorings LOL, and even then only if you really stared at both shots side by side. And while digital cameras are being updated every other month, the lenses will last you for many years. It's also better to have 1 decent good versatile fast lens like the 17-55mm/f2.8dx than umpteen lower quality options. Especially watch out for lenses that a labelled something like f2.8-4 because they only operate in f2.8 at the stop and not through the entire zoom range.And if you can't swing for one of those then go for a decent fixed lens, because you can always move closer or further away, and use photoshop to trim the image... nobody is going to notice on a 200K JPEG!!! So something like a 24mm/f2.8 would work well and be less than half the price. You can always crop back and blow up an image with too much in the frame, but you can't add stuff back in!And remember to look on eBay, because there are some real bargains to be had there as far as photographic equipment goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Maybe a little gimmicky i.e. buy when you want something a bit different but check out lens babies. It can go to F2 and it can provide similar effects to the bellows action of a 5x4" camera. http://www.lensbabies.com/pages/lensbaby2.php I used this for some wedding photos on Saturday.Gonna collect my Canon 5D on Friday with a 4gig card, it will probably be out of date by Monday hehe.BTW Flash, what problem you having with your flash? Might be able to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 BTW Flash' date=' what problem you having with your flash? Might be able to help.[/quote']I don't have a clue how to use it. All I know is how to plug it in and make it go FLASH!Have no idea how to tune it.Thus I never use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudenfuhrer Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 If you are a beginner and not sure about lenses I'd suggest a Finepix S9500 which is a great fixed lens camera - as good as a SLR really except the optics are all fixed save for what you put on the filter ring. The set up is so optimised and affordable that its hard to go wrong and the natural light mode is great for when you don't want a flash but there isn't much light. Range of modes from full auto right down to full manual and just about everything in between and you have a real freedom to concentrate on a specific variable or affect you are playing with - its just great for learning on.Nice review and pix here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 I don't have a clue how to use it. All I know is how to plug it in and make it go FLASH!Have no idea how to tune it.Thus I never use it What make is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 What make is it?Nikon Speedgun.Your signature is making me queasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bifta23 Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Nikon Speedgun.Your signature is making me queasy.which model did you buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bifta23 Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Maybe a little gimmicky i.e. buy when you want something a bit different but check out lens babies. It can go to F2 and it can provide similar effects to the bellows action of a 5x4" camera. http://www.lensbabies.com/pages/lensbaby2.php QUOTE]lensbabies are excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 If you are a beginner and not sure about lenses I'd suggest a Finepix S9500 which is a great fixed lens camera - as good as a SLR really except the optics are all fixed save for what you put on the filter ring. The set up is so optimised and affordable that its hard to go wrong and the natural light mode is great for when you don't want a flash but there isn't much light. Range of modes from full auto right down to full manual and just about everything in between and you have a real freedom to concentrate on a specific variable or affect you are playing with - its just great for learning on.Nice review and pix hereIt looks like a good camera' date=' although the reviewer clearly needs his eyes examined if he can't see the noise on the example Audi badge pics LOL! This review also mentions using image stabilisation technology for taking shots in low light. This is where the camera of lens compensates for shakey hands, permitting the shutter to stay open longer without blurring anything... unless of course you are shooting a gig (with the exception of a Kraftwerk gig) where all the protagonists are jumping around, and the last thing you need is the shutter open for longer The only thing that would put me off this camera is that it's only f2.8 at the outer edge of it's zoom and th ap shrinks to f4.9 as you start to zoom in... so it better have a bloody good built in flash!***Here's some rare non-gig shots. These were without flash in a dimly lit room on f2.8 lens and ISO 1600. [img']http://www.aberdeen-music.com/galleries/files/1/0/5/0/DSC_0019_356121.jpgNow that's what I call low noise... Noise is only really evident in the shadowy area on the RHS which is blurred into the background.The parrot is not in focus, but one of these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bifta23 Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Maybe a little gimmicky i.e. buy when you want something a bit different but check out lens babies. It can go to F2 and it can provide similar effects to the bellows action of a 5x4" camera. http://www.lensbabies.com/pages/lensbaby2.php QUOTE]lensbabies are excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 which model did you buy?I don't know I've had it for 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bifta23 Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 I don't know I've had it for 3 years.you need one of the newer models sb-600 or 800. will let you try one of these:up: you'll pick them up cheap on ebay. bought a d200 grip with two batteries from japan for 120 last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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