Joe Atom Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 ummmmmcos irrelevant is ummmmmmmirrelevant!Who are you to say what's relevant? Relevant to what? How are the 'popular' bands at the moment which seem to me to simply be rehashing old 70s rock (except worse) 'relevant' to anything except for Top of the Titting Pops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Im not preaching wee man Im laughing at the whole fucking ridiculous concept of a band like JP making a comebackId get it' date=' if it was MOTORHEAD or (crosses fingers) IRON MAIDEN cos they actually had some credibility in their time and were respected among their contempariesbut Judas fucking Preist!!!!!!hehehe [/quote']iron maiden are very much with us - headlining reading/leeds this year i believe, so are motorhead as well. they always were the best two bands from that era.what next - a saxon reunion? (i shouldnt speak to soon....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 actually the reason there are so many reunions is ....contrary to popular belief there's always heaps of good new stuff around' date=' you just need to shop around a bit more...[/quote']they cant they need to be spoon fed by kerrang and MTV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 iron maiden are very much with us - headlining reading/leeds this year i believe' date=' so are motorhead as well. they always were the best two bands from that era.what next - a saxon reunion? (i shouldnt speak to soon....)[/quote']my point exactly ....good luck to the buggers cos they rock (kinda)and yeh saxon were fucking hilarious too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 they cant they need to be spoon fed by kerrang and MTVthey need to be spoonfed by their nurses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Atom Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 iron maiden are very much with us - headlining reading/leeds this year i believe' date=' so are motorhead as well. they always were the best two bands from that era.what next - a saxon reunion? (i shouldnt speak to soon....)[/quote']Actually Saxon never went away, they've been touring sports centres for years now. They financed their last album by getting money up-front from the fans.Now don't go mistaking me for a saxon fan, that's one bridge too far, even for me.And to be honest, priest were from the era before Motorhead and Maiden.... along with Sabbath they were part of the first wave of Heavy Metal. I can appreciate the fact that they look ridiculous, and have a huge number of crap tunes, but their good tunes utterly slay. And maybe some metal fans didn't like them in the '80s, but there were a whole fucking heap of gumbies who did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Atom Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 they cant they need to be spoon fed by kerrang and MTVBecause Judas Priest have had so much MTV exposure in the last 15 years... Oh no, hang on, they haven't. At all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Actually Saxon never went away' date=' they've been touring sports centres for years now. They financed their last album by getting money up-front from the fans.Now don't go mistaking me for a saxon fan, that's one bridge too far, even for me.And to be honest, priest were from the era before Motorhead and Maiden.... along with Sabbath they were part of the first wave of Heavy Metal. I can appreciate the fact that they look ridiculous, and have a huge number of crap tunes, but their good tunes utterly slay. And maybe some metal fans didn't like them in the '80s, but there were a whole fucking heap of gumbies who did.[/quote']hmmmm a bad point very well put!so are saxon a netball team now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 havent twisted sister reformed as well???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Atom Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Yep. They're supporting Alice Cooper at the SECC in November, unfortunately. Now they really were utterly bollocks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeenat Aman Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 priest were from the era before Motorhead and Maiden.... along with Sabbath they were part of the first wave of Heavy Metal.Judas Priest were around in 1968/69? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Atom Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Yep!http://www.birminghamuk.com/wikipedia/Judas_Priest.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Yep. They're supporting Alice Cooper at the SECC in November' date=' unfortunately. Now they really were utterly bollocks...[/quote']its reassuring to know that a hardened metaller like yourself has limits!!!!!i know its not the case with yourself and your atom chums (i think you were born with studded waistbands) but we seem to be experiencing the knock on effect of the success of the darkness..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Atom Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 its reassuring to know that a hardened metaller like yourself has limits!!!!!i know its not the case with yourself and your atom chums (i think you were born with studded waistbands) but we seem to be experiencing the knock on effect of the success of the darkness.....I'm not really a fan of cock-rock... I go as far as Guns 'n' Roses, but Twisted Sister really are dire (although I must confess to secretly thinking the first 2 Skid Row albums rule.... but shhh!! Everyone has their secrets ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeenat Aman Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Yep!http://www.birminghamuk.com/wikipedia/Judas_Priest.htm"Judas Priest have released eighteen albums to date, the first being "Rocka Rolla" in 1974"This makes me think they may have been non metal/heavy to begin with and then jumped on board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I'm not really a fan of cock-rock... I go as far as Guns 'n' Roses' date=' but Twisted Sister really are dire (although I must confess to secretly thinking the first 2 Skid Row albums rule.... but shhh!! Everyone has their secrets )[/quote']don't worry joe, your secret is safe with me we all have skeletons in our musical closet we're ashamed of, i own a couple of late 80's simple minds albums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Atom Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 "Judas Priest have released eighteen albums to date' date=' the first being "Rocka Rolla" in 1974"This makes me think they may have been non metal/heavy to begin with and then jumped on board![/quote']Being minus 8 at the time, I couldn't really tell you. But given that we played metal for 5 years without being noticed I think it's certainly possible that Priest could have done the same thing. Certainly their early albums do rock quite hard, albeit in a shoddily produced kind of a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeenat Aman Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 don't worry joe' date=' your secret is safe with me we all have skeletons in our musical closet we're ashamed of, i own a couple of late 80's simple minds albums![/quote']I used to like The Sex Pistols!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonie Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 i've never understood the idea of music being relevant. what is it that makes one form of music relevant and another not? it always seems to come down to the age or the length of time it's been around for, meaning that to remain relevant, you'd need to be changing your cd collection every 6 months. why do people feel it necessary to brand others tastes as irrelevant? it might well be the case that bands like motley crue and judas priest are touring one last time to get some money together, but if people like their music and want to see those songs performed by the original lineup, what's the harm in that?it looks as though people who complain about the relevance of genres are always looking for everyone to be trawling through every new release till they find the most obscure and underground thing they can, with this hope that music will suddely become so much better when everyone finds what they're listening to, but lets face it, every generation has had more much shit than good stuff and now is no exception. listen to whatever you want to. fuck what anyone else says.anyone else seeing hanson at the academy tonight? spoons/x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I used to like The Sex Pistols!!!I find that quite disturbing for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 i've never understood the idea of music being relevant. what is it that makes one form of music relevant and another not? it always seems to come down to the age or the length of time it's been around for' date=' meaning that to remain relevant, you'd need to be changing your cd collection every 6 months. why do people feel it necessary to brand others tastes as irrelevant? it might well be the case that bands like motley crue and judas priest are touring one last time to get some money together, but if people like their music and want to see those songs performed by the original lineup, what's the harm in that?it looks as though people who complain about the relevance of genres are always looking for everyone to be trawling through every new release till they find the most obscure and underground thing they can, with this hope that music will suddely become so much better when everyone finds what they're listening to, but lets face it, every generation has had more much shit than good stuff and now is no exception. listen to whatever you want to. fuck what anyone else says.anyone else seeing hanson at the academy tonight? spoons/x[/quote']some relevant points there i feel, personally i just listen to what i like and am always on the look out for new stuff. i dont think people purposely go looking for obscure stuff just so they can brag about it on messageboards like this. i'm sure i speak for everyone when i say we like what we like and stuff everyone else.however the whole relevance thing does bring up a totally different debate and is not to be confused with the actual process of listening to the music. its just that people like me and betamax tire of these endless reforms by bands who are purely in it for the money and their own personal egos. i'm not just pinpointing metal bands here - i thought the pixies reforming was a bad idea but had a lot of people wetting their beds. though you could argue that pixies songs are more relevant in the general scheme of things than judas priest, that matters not one jot to those who love judas priests music. however i can argue a good case for new order still treading the boards though the new single is a rehash of stuff they've done in the past, but hell i'm a massive fan and will continue to love them. and i'm very concerned that peter hook has turned into shadrach from emmerdale - he still looks cool as fuck as he approaches 50 mind.dunno i find it an interesting debate and not one to be taken too seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Borlax Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 priest are brilliant they bloody invented brittish new wave metal did they not?sure they did some awful songs but they have more than enough classic songs to back it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 to me finding new stuff is a buzzfuck all to do with impressing anyone else, in fact Im fairly secretive about new stuff i listen to cos people tend to dismiss it initially anywayno one is that shallow eh?but dragging out sub standard bollocks from the past and trying to pass it off as cool when it never has been, is lazy marketing for lazy music listeners...zzzzzzzzzzand JP are dirty fucking paedo bastards (probably) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted March 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Come on now, if you dislike the band then just leave it. JP's weaker output is better than most of the tripe out today imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummerOfIntenseEvil Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Has anyone else noticed that the main riff on Revolution is a complete rip off of Mountain Song by Jane's Addiction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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