Drummerboy

Hi there

Got alot of drum stuff going and im open to offers.

Pearl Icon rack with ten cymbal boom arms, 5 tom arms, ten clamps and i think a remote hi hat.all in good condition.

Set of Premier stands with hi-hat, 2 cymbal stands and a snare stand.

Vintage collectable Zildjian ride cymbal

Sonor double pedal with matching Hi-hat

Pearl Travel Conga

Some old Scimitar Zoldjian ride and hi-hats

Stagg crash and splash.

Richmo 13 custom snare birch.

PM if interested in any.

Cheers:up:

Did you get my last PM about these???????????????????

No its March lol

Anyone???????????????

Drum stuff for sale:

Pearl Travel Conga drum with case and tuning key.

Pearl Icon Rack with clamps/tom arms/cymbal boom arms etc. Message me for full list.

12 Inch Zildjian Special recording hats

Sonor Double Pedal with case.

Offers please:up:

PM me.

Cheers

12 inch Zildjian special recording hats in great condition - only used a few times.

Open to offers. Have pics if needed. PM me.

Cheers

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If you really want to sell it i would suggest ebay or drumclassifieds.com

Kinda was not my point but anyway.

haha well done he takes the piss out of you and you agree

I was on about him prefering to take his own kit to tunnels.

This is indeed at times a very funny thread.

If it sounds good, you can adjust to your own preference of set up, near enough and folks that run the venue help heaps then its a win win situation? Any drummer turning up with his/her own kit to The Moorings should be allowed to take the house kit down, set up own kit, not get EQ'd differently from house kit, take down own kit and re set house kit. All of this within alloted set time. The rest of the band may have something to say about the minus 20minutes gig they get to not play!

Personally I would prefer to use my own kit at The Tunnels, and share it, as the house one is a little ragged around the edges, or was the last time I tried to use it.

AMAZING! Someone who talks sense! Congrats Jim Stax you have just been awarded the common sense award:up: Im glad to see you get what i was on about. Tunnels is a decent venue. Like the layout!

why would you possilbe want to use a kit that hasnt been EQ'd specifically for the venue rather than the house kit that is set up to sound as good as it can? No matter what drum kit you bring it would have to be EQ'd as the moorings wouldnt allow it any other way, which would then take time out of the gig night, (they wont come in hours early to accomodate you and why should they?) which you would then moan at at the end of the night when you only got to play 4 of your hits instead of 5-6. The band from hull would then piss and moan they came all the way up (with their fancy drum kit) only to play for 20 mins and Flash then has to deal with it all before getting up the next day to start again.

NOW do you get the point?

LOL this is kinda silly now. I was merly making a point about flexability not sound. You talk as if the moorings has a great sound - it does'nt! Fact is the EQs in that "box" of a stage is awful. So it would in fact make not much difference for others to use their kit without spending 6 hours running through a sound deck. I feel im wasting my breath but i can't be bothered arguing anymore.

you really just dont get the point at all do you?

No i think you don't get my point but oh well.

Did you read the link? The point you're missing is that you simply can not say that they "couldn't be assed". It is exactly because they could be assed, and go to such extreme lengths to make everything perfect on stage that on this occasion it was the drummer who should have had the sense to be flexible.

I was there on that night i am talking about and there was plenty of time to change the kit!! We had ages before the doors opened and if they had spent less time moaning over which kit to use and just set it up then it would have worked fine. I can't see why you seem to want to take sides in this - were you there??

If there is one accusation that can never be levelled at the Moorings guys, it is a lack of assedness. Pretty much nowhere tries harder to help bands have a good gig. Do you know anywhere else that will supply a house guitar as a spare, and restring and retune yours if you break a string?

More info here - http://www.aberdeen-music.com/forums/moorings-bar/37344-rules-bands.html

I was talking about the drum kit not guitar - they can be as nice as they like to the guitarist its not exactly going to affect me is it? I like the moornings and the folk which run it but again sometimes you just need to make an exception.

Have never played at the Moorings, but have to say that if more venues adopted their guidelines, the world would be a happier place.

Re. the house drum-kit, I can totally understand the Moorings' preference for bands using the house gear if there's a rapid turnover of acts on any given night, and if they've gone to the bother of EQ'ing the drums to perfection....makes a lot of sense.

Was just wondering if the use of house drums was expected at other live music venues across the land?

Yeah i agree it would not be the end of the world for them to be more flexable. And im not just talking about Aberdeen venues.

I like this thread.

Echo Frosty's point about being able to play almost any type of set-up: it's all fine and well being picky when you're practising or in the studio with your set up, but at gigs there's always going to be a chance you'll have to use a house kit that won't be tailor made for you. A good drummer will get round this, no matter what style he/she plays.

I don't use hi-hats on my live Wifebeater set up. I don't need them because I prefer the volume of a crash/ride, but again that comes down to what you prefer.

Ahhhh Wifebeater - good old Dave on guitar. I miss him - used to play in Red Mongouse with him:up:

boo hoo to the boy who was stupid enough to take a drum kit all the way up from hull, if he had asked before he would had saved himself the bother.

There is no venue in aberdeen, bar the moorings, that wont let you use your own gear, and the reason they wont is because they provide kit that is more than good enough and is set up sound wise for their building.

Why would you want to bring your own kit to a gig to see it get abused by other bands who have no interest in making sure it stays in good nic? Put the lemon tree aside and its almost completely pointless taking your own drum kit to a gig in aberdeen, for the quality of sound most places produce alone, your fancy 3000 DW is going to sound almost exactly the same as the battered premier thing in drummonds.

My point was not about worrying about brining your kit to a gig to have others use it as obvously the guy said he did not mind. Ths point was the guys who run moorsings could have made an expection as it would not have been the end of the world to set up his kit - they just could not be assed. But anyway it depends what gigs you go to - alot of gigs with my band are booked for us - as in we are the main band playing. So i do take a kit most times becuase A) The venue we play does not normally have a kit or B) i'll be the only one playing it so i don't mind taking it.

Bottom line is that angling your drums towards/away from you depends entirely on your own technique, your grip, the way you throw the stick at the drum etc...and making some blanket statement suggesting that you will sound shit unless you're drums are positioned a certain way is bollocks.

Example....Mike 'Puffy' Bordin, of Ozzy/Faith No More fame, plays with his toms ridiculously high and flat. Like most people, I couldnt possibly play his kit with my way of playing, but he hardly sounds shit does he?

Don't forget good old Vergin Donati - the way he goes around those toms above his head is mado_O

Agree with all of this. I tune to notes with brand new heads when recording. The results are very worth the effort

Regardless of whether or not I take all my own drums to gigs, I always take my hardware. There is no way I'd ever put my cymbals on house stands as they are nearly always lacking a cymbal sleeve and are quite often stuck and hard to adjust. I've also played too many house hihat stands which didn't lift properly. And then there's the issue of thrones as I sit quite high and most are stuck a foot off the ground. It's all about me getting the setup I want and feeling comfortable. The more comfortable I feel, the better I'll play.

Of course there is also the part of me not understanding why you would pay thousands for a kit just to leave it at home

This is so true about "house hardware" - its always bent to buggery and you can never really change the angles etc on it. The only main problem ive got with taking all your own gear is weather they can be bothered to let you use it - i had a gig at the Moorings bar last summer and this band had come up all the way from Hull to play. Their drummer had brought his pearl Masters with him but they did not let him set it up even though he was perfectly hapyp for all of the drumms that night to use his kit - boo hoo to the moornings!!:down:

The drummer that sprang to mind is the chap from Jupiter Lander, who's name escapes me. I think he uses hats in JL, but in two of his previous bands, Duckstab and We Are Corpses!! he just used a snare, ride and one tom. No hats. It sounded ace.

Hmm well guess it ovbously does happen but again its hard to see most mainstream music without hats - jazz maybe. alot of thats on the ride/crash rides anyway but id be lost without a hi-hat...

This is all nonsense. I don't give a poo what my drums sound like. I learnt on a 3rd hand Olyimpic by Premier kit that could have been anything between 10 and 30 years old, I really don't know, or care. I now have a Premier Cabria that I got second hand and a bunch of mismatched cymbals that I bought off ebay. It sounds ace!

I guess I'm not a picky drummer... I never understood why people don't just use the house kit at gigs. Saves a lot of bother, no?

wait until you come to record your kit - only then does it really hit you how good or bad sounding it is. And alot of musicians like using their own stuff - i guess it all depends if you care about things like the sound and "playability" of your instriment do you start to care about which kit you play - the house one or your own.

Unless you're going for a verrrrrrrrry specific sound, I'd say it's impossible to do without hats in any style.

Yeah i kinda agree with this. The only drummer which springs to mind who never used a hi-hat much is Keith Moon and he was a nutter lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I reckon if I was a drummer, I would scrap the hi-hat completely, as I don't like them unless they are open and clattering around. I'd just alternate between the chiming of the ride cymbal and the tinkling of the bell, then make a load of racket with a crash the size of houses. Maybe I'd mix it up a bit with a cowbell, or two different cowbells of slightly different sizes. Then just a kick and a dead tinny, clangy snare. And maybe a sample pad, that triggers a singular clip of a pre-recorded mass-handclap, like on Queen's We Will Rock You. Anthemic

No hi-hat???(

I take it your in a heavy band ? I actually want to change my hi-hat as im bored with the sound now.

i like evans heads. i also like drum kits with as little shit as possible, cymbal snare and kick plez

I wish i could just do with as little as possible - but when your used to a big rig its harder to size down. having said that where i practise for my blues band i just use a sonor jungle kit and hats, crash/ride and ride so just a typical jazz setting really.

I'd say I am quite picky. Any drums I buy must have a satin finish or else I'm not interested. Not really a fan of playing the house kits at the tunnels etc as they don't sound even nearly like I want it to and so quite often I take my own. As for tuning, I like everything tuned really low and don't use moon gell or anything like that

All my heads are Evans (except for the Bass Drum Reso) as I like how open and lively they sound and the coating endurance is pretty good. Had Aquarian's on for a bit and really liked them but recorded they sounded quite dull. The heads I use at the moment are:

Snare batter - Coated G1

Snare reso - Hazy 300

Toms batter - Coated G2

Toms reso - Clear G1

Bass batter - EMAD Coated (I ended up not using the foam rings so might get an EQ4 Coated next time)

Bass reso - Aquarian Regulator

Yeah i must admit i don't think i have ever liked a typical "house" drum kit as most are battered to hell! Mind you thats even more picky than me only buying drums with a satin finnish lol. But 3 of my kits are sparkles so i guess i like those alot for some reason - think its becuase of when the light hits it on stage or so it really stands out better.

Cool heads - as i say im not used to Evans heads yet. But i do LOVE the EMAD bass drum head from Evans. Its such a good idea and it makes even a cheap kick drum sound ace.