WeirdAl

Rack sold. Just the hihats looking for a good home now

China sold

Xplosion Crash and Dark Crash sold

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I've got some Sabian AAX cymbals for sale in this thread if you are interested: http://www.aberdeen-music.com/forums/equipment/58815-cymbals-drum-rack-sale.html

Hey folks! Am selling a few cymbals I don't use any more: Sabian AAX Fast Hats - 14" SABIAN Cymbals - AAX Fast Hats 14" 4 years old 100 ONO Sabian AAX X-Treme China - 17" SABIAN Cymbals - AAX X-Treme Chinese 17" 2.5 years old 70 ONO Sabian AAX X-Plosion Crash - 18" (left below) SABIAN Cymbals - AAX X-Plosion Crash 18" 5 years old 90 ONO Sabian AAX Dark Crash - 18" (right below) SABIAN Cymbals - AAX Dark Crash 18" 5 years old 90 ONO Am a pretty light hitter and take good care of my stuff so all are in good condition. I've also got a Gibralter rack for sale. It's got a curved front section with a short curved extension and a long straight extension. Also got a pipe for fitting the top half of a snare drum stand into to have your snare drum mounted on the rack which is pretty cool. Got 5 cymbal/tom arm clamps. Say 150 ONO? E-mail me for pics PM me if interested. Cheers Al

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DW don't do entry level (unless it's a PDP by DW) so you will probably never need another kit as DW's are seriously nice haha First suggestion I would have for you is to check out www.OnlineDrummer.com ... the forum is extremely good and everyone is very helpful. There is also a lot of videos and teaching material on it. Now to your questions ... Double braced hardware is subjective. I have a couple of single braced Yamaha stands that are much more sturdy than most companies double braced hardware. What you are looking for is for thick, sturdy tubes. A lot of cheaper hardware looks ok but is actually really flimsy and will buckle if you try to put a clamp on it and will sway a lot of you mount a tom and a heavy cymbal on it. I'd recommend taking a look at bigdog hardware (www.bigdogdrumstuff.com) as their stuff is actually pretty good and reasonably priced. The entry level hardware for a lot of the big name brands isn't that great; especially when you get can mid level bigdog for the same price. If you can, try to get boom cymbal stands rather than straight stands. They are far more useful and can be converted easily to be a straight stand. If you want to go straight for decent hardware DW and Yamaha are arguably the best out there. Hihats become brighter and more responsive the smaller they get. I'd recommend going on the cymbal manufacturers websites as they have sound files that you can listen to of every cymbals they make. Heavier cymbals will be brighter and louder than thin ones. The smaller the cymbal, the higher the pitch. The big 4 cymbals companies are Zildjian, Sabian, Paiste and Meinl; google them to get their websites and soundfiles. Bruce Millers and R&B pretty much only stock Zildjian which is a shame. Your best bet is to start out with a cymbal pack as it is a cheap option to get you started. These tend to contain 14"hihats, 16" crash and 20" ride. You can then expand from there depending on what you want and/or upgrade as and when you want. I might get flamed for this but Zildjian entry level cymbals are terrible. I started out with a set of ZBTs and hated them. Paiste and Meinl make really good entry level cymbals and to be honest, Stagg are quite good for the money. I got a Stagg DH 10" splash for 25 and I prefer it over any 80 one I've ever tried. I'll round this uber post off with a summary of the cymbal companies from my experience. Everyone has different tastes so this is purely my opinion ... Zildjian tend to have extremely long sustain and are very warm sounding. K Customs (as mentioned by The_Tank) are best suited for Jazz and quieter applications yet I see a great many drummers from all sorts of genres using them and subsequently breaking them. One example was one of the drummers from dananananakroyd who had a massive crack in his 18" K Custom dark crash; expensive mistake as they cost a small fortune. Sabian tend to be duller sounding with a shorter sustain. That doesn't make them bad as I swore by them for years. It makes them good for rockier music and metal. I don't have much experience with Meinl but from what I gather, they are quite similar to Sabian. Paiste tend to be very bright and have a very distinctive sound. They are also well known for their big cymbals where 15" hihats, 20" crashes and 22" rides are available on most lines. There's even a couple of 24" crashes and few 24" rides which are staggeringly big. Paiste's entry level-intermediate cymbals are very good with PST3 and PST5 very worth a look at depending on your budget. Wow that was a big post!!

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I got a Gibraltar rack a few years ago for the same reason. I just couldn't get the setup I wanted using stands. It's very useful for being able to very quickly get the same setup every time no-matter the stage. I've reduced the size of my kit quite significantly since getting my rack and so no longer use it. If you are interested, I'm selling it for 150ish. Let me know and I can dig out some pictures and give you more details if you like

Something that always gets overlooked; have you considered different snares? A standard 20 strand will do most people fine but something a bit more substancial like 24 would give you a more fat, snare-ie sound. If you use less then it's more the sound of the drum that you get. Birch is quite bright with a lot of high end. Maple has much lower, warmer tones that might suit you better. Steel is ultra bright so I don't think you'd be after that. If you fancied trying metal, brass is a bit darker sounding than steel so I'd recommend trying that. Bronze is warm but very cutting but also very expensive. The last thing I have to say is that does your picture have Evans EC2 heads on the kit? Evans are pretty much the brightest and most ringy heads on the market. I use Remo and while the coatings wear off quite quickly, they generally give a darker, much more vintage sound.

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Hey folks! Am selling a few cymbals I don't use any more: Sabian AAX Fast Hats - 14" SABIAN Cymbals - AAX Fast Hats 14" 4 years old 100 ONO Sabian AAX X-Treme China - 17" SABIAN Cymbals - AAX X-Treme Chinese 17" 2.5 years old 70 ONO Sabian AAX X-Plosion Crash - 18" (left below) SABIAN Cymbals - AAX X-Plosion Crash 18" 5 years old 90 ONO Sabian AAX Dark Crash - 18" (right below) SABIAN Cymbals - AAX Dark Crash 18" 5 years old 90 ONO Am a pretty light hitter and take good care of my stuff so all are in good condition. I've also got a Gibralter rack for sale. Not really got any pictures but it's got a curved front section with a short curved extension and a long straight extension. Also got a pipe for fitting the top half of a snare drum stand into to have your snare drum mounted on the rack which is pretty cool. Got 5 cymbal/tom arm clamps. Say 150 ONO? PM me if interested. Cheers Al

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Hey folks! Am selling a couple of cymbals I don't use any more: Sabian AAX Fast Hats - 14" SABIAN Cymbals - AAX Fast Hats 14" 4 years old. Good condition being that I'm not a hard hitter. 100 ONO Sabian AAX X-Treme China - 17" SABIAN Cymbals - AAX X-Treme Chinese 17" 2.5 years old. Again good condition for the same reason 70 ONO PM me if interested. Cheers Al

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Carpet on the walls and ceiling is a good start. If you look in the press and journal (or any other local paper) adverts you'll see people giving away carpet for free if you collect it from them. A few lengths of wood from B&Q to secure it. A very good thing to have is a second door to create a room within a room. Build a frame to distance it from the actual door and fix wooden sheets to both sides. Carpet this as well on the side your drums are on. The second door creates an air gap which really stops the sound escaping. I've seen this second door air gap anything from a few inches to a few feet so whatever best suits the room will work fine

Problem is with other venues adopting the Moorings guidelines is that other venues don't have the nice gear and don't keep it in as good condition. When the drum heads and cymbal stands are held together with duct tape it doesn't inspire you to want to use them so they would need to do something about that first. Rockers in Glasgow is the only other venue I've played where they insist on you using their gear for fast turnovers.

Agree with all of this. I tune to notes with brand new heads when recording. The results are very worth the effort Regardless of whether or not I take all my own drums to gigs, I always take my hardware. There is no way I'd ever put my cymbals on house stands as they are nearly always lacking a cymbal sleeve and are quite often stuck and hard to adjust. I've also played too many house hihat stands which didn't lift properly. And then there's the issue of thrones as I sit quite high and most are stuck a foot off the ground. It's all about me getting the setup I want and feeling comfortable. The more comfortable I feel, the better I'll play. Of course there is also the part of me not understanding why you would pay thousands for a kit just to leave it at home