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  4. The internet is shit.

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    I guess you are aware of the irony of expressing this view using the internet. I think the internet is both good and bad. Just use the bits you want and reject those you dont.

    Da Fat Porn Star:

    But then surely you would have to be on the net to go on theinternetisshit.com and find said column and find out it's shit...

    Kinda defeats the purpsoe no? :rolleyes:

    che:

    no' date=' not at all.

    But using the media you hate, to put across your message of hate isn't really defeating the purpose, in fact it's getting the message to the right people. The users of the internet. ;)[/quote']

    Read the whole thread before replying.

    :)

  5. The internet is shit.

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    But then surely you would have to be on the net to go on theinternetisshit.com and find said column and find out it's shit...

    Kinda defeats the purpsoe no? :rolleyes:

    no, not at all.

    I think the main irony lies in the fact that they say things along the lines of, 'don't believe anything on the internet'..

    But using the media you hate, to put across your message of hate isn't really defeating the purpose, in fact it's getting the message to the right people. The users of the internet. ;)

  8. The internet is shit.

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    The internet is shit.

    It is vitally important that we all realize this and move on. People (eg Bloggers) go on and on about how wonderful it is. About how much information is out there in cyberspace. About the way that everything is within reach in just a few clicks of their mice.

    For instance:

    "If I can operate Google, I can find anything... Google, combined with Wi-Fi, is a little bit like God. God is wireless, God is everywhere and God sees and knows everything. Throughout history, people connected to God without wires. Now, for many questions in the world, you ask Google, and increasingly, you can do it without wires, too."

    Alan Cohen, V.P. of Airespace, a new Wi-Fi provider, New York Times, 6/29/03

    I can name 20 people from my old school class who aren't in Google. I can walk into any public library, no matter how tiny and underfunded, and find facts, stories, amazing information I would never touch in a month of webcrawling. I can go into a bar and hear stories Usenet hasn't come close to in its 22 years of waffle. "Oh but what about the stuff you CAN get on the web?" the netheads say. But they're missing the point.

    The internet is not the sole basis upon which you can determine existence. It sounds simple but people are starting to forget. If it doesn't have a website, that doesn't make something low quality. If you can't Google your blind date, that doesn't make them a freak. If one website says something about anything, it's more than likely pure invention and shouldn't be taken seriously. Checking your sources does not mean finding another website that says the same. Fiction is self-perpetuating.

    Let's say it another way. A URL is not a mark of quality. It's not proof of honesty or approval from the FDA. Sure, people say they know this already, that a lot of the internet isn't true and a lot of it isn't interesting, no matter how angst-ridden and attention-seeking its author. But still we praise the internet for everything, from mobilising global protests to creating the latest trends, while disappearing up its backside and discarding anything outside it as 'out of touch'.

    While we ascribe every first-world miracle to the electronic age, there's something truly missing that we once had in our grasp: our sense of wonder. Back in 1995, we were surprised, agog when things appeared on the net. People starting going around saying 'wow, this could really become something'. Slowly (very slowly at 16kbps), strange websites, new information, odd diversions and discussions with people around the world appeared in this brave new world. Each time it was met with surprise and delight, even if some of it was deeply obscure and slightly dull. There was no doubting the potential of the medium.

    And look what we've done with it. Food wrappers and soap operas now tell us to visit their websites. Money is pumped online by people who can't even spell HTML. All manner of pointless and irritating content is continually poured down the infinite hole of data, unfiltered and over-appreciated. In accepting freedom of speech, we can't hide from its consequences - which in this case is millions of terabytes of unreliable information, badly designed and clumsily written. We have failed our own creation and given birth something truly awful. We're just too busy cooing over the pram to notice.

    We need to start again. We need to stop saying how wonderful things are. We need to openly, truthfully and respectfully admit that the internet itself, in almost all of what's been done with it, is shit.

    There's no point in undoing what has been done. What we need to do is to change our attitude. The internet isn't new any more. The evangelists have done their job. Everyone's heard of it even if they don't spend their lives logged on. Now its the job of the congregation to revolt. Chant it from the rooftops, spread it across your server, email it to your friends. The internet is shit.

    And then what? Then we can move on. If we truly understand that the internet is shit then maybe we'll go back to looking elsewhere to check our information instead of just Google. Maybe journalists will do proper research again. If we remember that the medium isn't the message then maybe we'll stop aimlessly surfing for something amusing when we could actually be doing something fun. And, crucially, if the internet is just seen as occasionally unavoidable, maybe those websites that give us something special will be all the more amazing for it.

    Give an infinite number of monkeys typewriters and they'll produce the works of Shakespeare. Unfortunately, I feel like I'm reading all the books where they didn't. I can't wait for the day when the internet makes me rejoice in its possibilities again. But right now, it's shit.

    http://www.internetisshit.org

  9. [Another] Green Day pre-release single

    in Music Discussion

    Posted

    [link] - Letterbomb from the upcoming American Idiot album.

    [link] - Green Day interview from Radio 1 Lockup show last night (24/August/2004)

    Letter Bomb Lyrics

    Where have all the bastards gone?

    The underbelly stinks of tonight

    The dummy failed the crash test

    Collecting unemployement cheques

    You're fucking only along for the ride

    Where have all the riots gone?

    As the city's moto gets pulverized

    Once two lovers, now in debt

    On your birth certificate

    So strike the fucking match to light this fuse

    The television's an extortionist

    And they don't even know that you exist

    So stand still, waits to die

    You'd better run for your fucking life

    It's not over 'til your underground

    It's not home before it's too late

    This city's burning

    It's not my burden

    It's not home before it's too late

    There is nothing left to analyse

    Where will all the martyrs go

    When the fire scares themselves?

    And where will we all go when it's too late?

    And don't look back

    Your not the Jesus of Suburbia

    They're saying Jimmy is a figment of

    Your Fathers race and your Mothers love

    Then maybe you need an America

    It's not over 'til your underground

    It's not home before it's too late

    This city's burning

    It's not my burden

    It's not home before it's too late

    Well she said I can't take this place

    I'm leaving it behind

    Well she said I can't take this town

    I'm leaving you tonight

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