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  1. Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16)

    Narrow minded music fascist dick.

    Edit: that was directed at palmer

    *COUGH* Palmer is Rory.

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  3. Yeah, the latest you can get served is 0259. Everyone needs to be out by 0315.

    We're currently looking at restructuring the events at the weekend to properly utilise the additional hours. Any changes will be phased in slowly.

    If anyone has any ideas then feel free to post them here, although I'm not promising that we'll implement them.

    Thus far we're thinking about reintroducing some month long band residencies on the Friday, like we used to do 4 years ago. Idea being that a band plays one set each Friday, quite early on in the evening, for a one month period. They wouldn't be expected to play completely different material each time, the core of their set wouldn't need to change. This would be for experienced, established bands with a decent depth of material to draw on. It's a good way of getting Joe Average Punter familiar with their tunes. Then the regular club night would follow on from that. There would be a nominal door charge to cover costs.

    On Saturday's we're looking at dropping down to 3 bands, to make way for a club night after the last band finishes it's set. So bands would play at 9pm, 10pm, and 11pm with the last band coming off at midnight.

  4. Alan Donnelly is a self-serving twat who will do or say anything to get in the paper. You can almost guarantee that he'll be in the P&J or EE every single day spouting a completely irrelevant opinion on something.

    I have to disagree with you there. I've been in close proximity to him at the licensing forum and seen him in action. I think he's a pretty switched on guy. I was the one he made the comment to, and he meant it in the nicest possible way. He was justifying to the rest of the board why he felt that the Moorings should be permitted to stay open longer, his point being that we cater to a specific niche that doesn't currently have many clubbing options available to it. He also wasn't quoted in full. So please, stop giving him a hard time - he's on our side :)

  5. The University Union was huge. Several times the size of the Palace. There were two huge bars both around 500+ capacity and two night clubs again 500+ capacity, also a cafeteria, and an arcade. Up until the mid 1990s you often had to queue to get into some of the places, it was heaving!

  6. What's the latest news on the bid? I heard JP's University Grill or whatever it's called got turned down for a late licence last week.

    We're in front of them at their next meeting which is on the 1st June. Fingers crossed. I don't think that anywhere has been granted this yet, but we've put a lot of effort into preparing for this and I feel that we have a strong case.

    If anyone would like to write to or email the licensing board in support of our application then that would be much appreciated.

    Thanks

  7. We've had gigs with a 300 foot fall, but if you actually count the people in the room at any one time it's still within our fire capacity. The reason being that not everyone shows up at 8pm and stays right through till the final chord is struck at 1am. So yes it's possible to sell 300 tickets for a gig in a venue with a sub 200 capacity.

    But to reiterate my earlier point. You can only fit 2 people per square meter. That's not just the law, it's a practicality, unless your trying to recreate an approximation of Hillsborough Disaster (which wouldn't be very clever). There are three ways you can check the actual capacity of a venue:

    1) Wait until it is rammed and simply count the number of heads.

    2) Measure it, which you can do with reasonable accuracy by pacing. In order to hold ~350 people it would require ~175m2 of usable floor space, which would mean: 58x3, 44x4, 35x5, 29x6, 25x7, 22x8, 19x9, 17.5x10, 16x11, 15x12, 13x13... *YAWN*

    3) Look up the capacity section of it's operating plan, which was calculated by a qualified architect.

    IMO these are more accurate than hearsay, asking a promoter, or counting ticket sales. Although from this point onwards Brian shall inform anyone who asks that our capacity is officially 999. So it must be true :)

  8. The thing about Drummonds is it looks massive cos it's on two floors.

    I think my guesses were nae bad. Also, I would have thought the Moorings was a bit bigger than 190 after it's last wee change and the same with your Drummonds quote since the changed bar layout freed more floor space.

    Another way to get your eye in, rather than pace out the floor space is to take a quick head count. When we first took over the bar, back before operating plans existed and it's layout was very different, and capacity considerably lower, we had a totally rammed sell out gig that definitely hit 100% fire capacity. We cold not squeeze another body into the room. People had to form a chain gang in order to get a drink. Someone said to me "Wow you've got 300 people in here", so I stood on the bar and counted heads. Turned out we had around 120 people...

  9. Oh no my pet gripe LMAO!

    Venue capacity is dictated by fire capacity, which is a very liberal rather than conservative estimate. For standing room you an fit two people into every square meter. To imagine this, draw a square on the floor 1m x 1m and plunk two people into it. That's pretty rammed. Seated room is three people for every 2 square meters... The point I am making is that no one in their right mind would exceed fire capacity.

    So if a venue was to hold 300 people then it would need to have 150m2 of floor area. That would be umm... 15m x 10m, or 30m x 5m, etc.

    Building law also states that everyone must be within 20m of the nearest fire escape. So any building that is dead ended can only be 20m long in total (meaning including the stage, toilets etc). And in order to calculate actual capacity from that footprint you need to subtract things like fire escapes, toilets, the bar(s), stages, stairs, store rooms etc.

    Now various people have come on here and trotted out a mixture of the usual urban myths. But if you take the time to roughly pace these venues out, then you'll soon discover that three of those claims are almost double reality. And if you still don't believe me, then check out the operating plans lodged with the local licensing board. The operating plans must by law contain scale drawings produced by a qualified architect incorporating measurements, and that the stated capacity must be calculated from those measurements, there is no way to overstate or understate the capacity. I know this because I've filled out an operating plan.

    I believe that the combined capacity of both Tunnels would be around the 300 mark.

    At a rough guess Drummonds capacity is somewhere between 150 and 200.

    The Moorings capacity is 190. But if you want me to quote it relative to the urban myth scale then I guess it's around 350 (at the moment) LOL.

    See this old chestnut: http://www.aberdeen-music.com/forums/other-clubs-venues/52516-venue-capacities.html

  10. The Moorings may shortly be hosting gigs more frequently than at present, and our existing lead sound engineer no longer has sufficient spare time at his disposal to tackle our workload which includes equipment maintenance, live recording etc in addition to live engineering.

    We are looking for experienced sound and lighting engineer(s), people with a good knowledge of electronics, who know how to use a screwdriver, soldering iron, and would have a passing familiarity with things like Ohm's Law. By experienced I mean someone with considerable real world experience, sorry but those recently graduated and still wet behind the ears would not be suitable for this post.

    We already have a capable junior engineer and stagehand at our disposal. The successful candidate would not be required to work every gig (unless they desperately wanted to). Our most pressing consideration is the on-going maintenance. Anything from 12 - 24 hours per week of work are available, with the potential for private recording/mixing/mastering commissions in addition to that utilising our in-house 24-track digital recorder.

    We're happy to talk to any interested party whether an individual or a business.

    If anyone would be interested in undertaking all or part of this work then please PM me.

  11. The Moorings Jam Session continues in the same format as per the past 7+ years. WE provide full backline, everything is mic'd up, there's a sound engineer and a compere on hand. There's also a substantial house band who are happy to fill in with you.

    Details from our forum:

    Sunday from 8pm The Jam Factory, a combined open stage night and jam session.

    We provide quality backline and everything is fully mic'd up through the PA system. There are 3 vocal mics on stage.

    All musicians are welcome, you have the choice of bringing your own instruments or using ours. Hope to see you there :woohoo:

    We're always seeking more musicians for our house band too. House band members receive cost price drinks on the night and a 25% discount the rest of the time, plus free admission to all our paying gigs.

    FREE admission, 18 years and over welcome.

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  12. Recently post Christmas we experienced some flooding problems. Our connection between the tenement and the sewer had collapsed and this was causing our toilets to backup and flood the toilet floors. There were several nights where we had to close early.

    Scottish Water dug up the pavement outside the bar two weeks ago and rerouted our connection. There were no flooding problems last weekend so I think we can safely assume that the problem has been solved.

    Apologies for any inconvenience.

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