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Wasn't it pointed out that interesting music lose money on practically every gig though? They have a reputation' date=' but it's apparently came at a price. Money can't be lost forever, that's for sure.[/quote']
You're right, but the point is still valid. Their shows are eagerly anticipated, and they are becoming renowned for high quality, both are things I think you need when putting on gigs.
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Completely misses the point maybe' date=' but..if the option is no gigs at all, what's the best option? one "cutting edge" band is better than no cutting edge bands, right?
It might not be the 'right' thing to say, but common sense dictates that if money is a consideration and it's being lost on these gigs, then something surely has to give?
Maybe, possibly, Aberdeen is simply rejecting what's on offer?[/quote']
I understand your point but that's almost like saying what's the point of having conviction, ideas, and integrity. Conforming might get results but with a very bitter taste in the mouth and at what cost? Where would be the dignity?
That's why some bands form, for those very reasons.
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I don't like how this thread has turned into people giving excuses why they haven't attended shows because of money, work commitments, battling seagulls etc. It's fine if people couldn't attend, nothing wrong with that whatsoever, but I think the real point that should be discussed is how to combat the reasons for negative turnouts, which have been identified already.
The cd sampler is a good idea, but I think it should be more far reaching than just One Up. What about Peacocks, Retro Rebels, Fopp, some of the more individual coffee shops, Tunnels whenever you do a show there, Tom's, The Foyer etc.
I think you should do a magazine as well, which people could pick up free and read about the future gigs, related articles etc. Snafu do this and even though I thought some of the content wasn't great, it did make an interesting point of finding out about the shows there.
Trouble is the previous two ideas cost money...
I think the Interesting Music chaps have done something I always believed should be achieved when putting on shows. People look forward to their gigs because it's an Interesting Music night, and not just because they've heard of the bands.
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I know you're all young and righteous and all that' date=' but nobody has a duty to attend gigs just cos they have been put on by someone.[/quote']
I fully agree with you there, and I felt that there was this expectation that you must attend, on many different occasions. Too many times I've felt this pressure, from friends, promoters etc resulting in me saying "No I don't HAVE to see this band!" It's one of the key factors that puts me off nowadays. The last two gigs I've been to, the different promoters at the door of the respective venues have exclaimed what a tragedy it was that I missed some of the show. I refuse to be made to feel guilty, whether they tried to make me feel like that or not.
I saw Charlottefield and felt they were bland. They were great musicians, and they rocked the ticket, but what's the point if they're just noise/rhythm progression? I'm no fan of math rock, so that explains some of my mediocre reaction, but I like the Oxes, I like Sonic Youth, I like the Paper Chase, who are all regarded as hard to listen to groups, but I didn't enjoy the band at all. A couple of points they were interesting but it didn't float my boat.
From what I gather from friends, Paper Cut Out were along the same lines. Automatically you're cutting away a massive proportion of gig goers because of the selection of a line up. There's nothing wrong with that, but you have to be able to make up for the eclectic bands with additional promotion, telling people that this IS the show which they'll be upset about if they miss.
If I didn't speak to Maxi, I wouldn't have known about this show, simple as that. My situation is different though because I'm based out of town. I think Aberdeen has a problem in general where there isn't a big scene consciousness out with the scene itself, and the areas, and media available to put on shows, and promote are fragmented both geographically and ideologically.
You look around a small/local gig and 60-70% of those in attendance are in a band (or so I have gleaned from the shows Ive been to over the last 5 years). That just shows you what is wrong with audiences. How do we change this?
Aberdeen's situation is a big nut to crack, I never found a good way to combat it in my naive period of promoting, and I'm not criticising or at least don't mean to come across as having a go. Id rather shout out loud than sit on the fence.
Alastair
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Hey! Did you ever get that e-mail that I sent you?
You know' date=' with the photos and all?[/quote']
Yo,
Was that for Joe, or me? If you had pictures that were meant for Gav, of last years festival, then I don't think he received them. Which address did you send them too?
He's been in contact recently hasn't he, regarding what you need/set up etc for playing?
Let me know if you need the ticket/info sent your way for friends.
Al
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ugh' date=' not to be uncool or anything, but what's gravfest?
{bill is reminded again that he's still new here!']
thanx for the vote either way
Bill,
Gavfest is a free festival, run by a guy called Gav and his friends. I think Lime mentioned it because Gav is very much looking for an electronica act to complete the line up.
Last year, it involved a newly built stage, camping, bbq, nine bands with varying styles (including electro goth rock, stripped acoustic, art punk, pop, emo, and new wave), and an audience of near 200 people.
It's good fun, honest!
Alastair
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That's 80% of tickets sent out. More very soon!
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I sent out the first batch. Sorry it's taken a while. If you still haven't got yours, but you've emailed gavfest@hotmail.com, then don't worry, I'm working through all the responses.
Alastair - Valentine Bitch
-- GAVFEST 2: Party Monster 2005 -- SAT 20 AUGUST -- MILL OF URAS, STONEHAVEN --
Hookers Green No. 1, Filthpact, Masamune, Copy_Haho, Sweetheart, Popcorn Fiend, Project Ven Hell, Saint Maybe, Djisdaah, Doris/Mavis........more to be confirmed, maybe.
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I hope they are.
I know they'd really love to.
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Hey Mike,
You need to email Gav at the Valentine Bitch warpmail address which is in this thread. He doesn't often check the boards. All the bands went through that to play.
Al
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Filthpact are almost certainly playing this also.
You don't know how happy that makes me. Glad that it looks on again for you guys.
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Damn.
What now for this beautiful stolen t shirt im wearing?
Lovely band.
x
You be a good girl and give it back. Otherwise you're in TROUBLE!
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"Where's your wallet Rikki?!"
That bastard made me miss nearly the entire NicenSleazy's show Q and Not U played, last time they were over.
I almost went to see them in Prague as well.
I've enjoyed their albums, they were a good band.
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Mon dieu!!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43659&item=4742315651&rd=1
You can now buy Solid Gold on cd as well (which is apparently just as good as their debut Entertainment!)!!!!
I'm off to bid on some Huggy Bear vinyl.
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Message from Al:
Sorry kids, but I can no longer come. Next time for sure though.
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I like Saturdays. What's with this Sunday shit, ho ho...
Joss and me will be along tomorrow. If I can I'll make Sunday as well.
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David Pajo - Pajo
CAN - Cannabilism 1
Mercury Rev - The Secret Migration
Lemon Jelly - 64 - 95
The Hives - Tyrannosaurus Hives
Is Pajo any good? I'm really interested in listening to that record.
Misssion of Burma? Paper Chase? Mon dieu!! Good choices
Currently highly rated on the listening box on death pod central:
The Locust - Safety Second, Body Last
Murder by Death - Like The Exorcist, But More...
Peter Gabriel - Birdy Soundtrack
Paper Chase - Hide The Kitchen Knives
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing
Huggy Bear - Weaponry Listens To Love
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Anyone help?
I need part time work, damn.
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I'll be there this Saturday, I finally have time again.
Go Team Death
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that was harsh
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Kick Joss for me, I'll finally be back after my travels, next week.
Go Team Hero
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wot happened to helping the ppl in our country on the streets first?
That's the view to take laddy, that's the view. Considering we live off crippling other countries through debt, trade, sanctions, and of course we fucked up Africa when we took it for ourselves, but nevermind, we matter more. Berlin act 1884 I believe.
History should be a leason, instead it's forgotten.
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Haha, fair point.
I'll enjoy your penis when we finally go for that pint, upon my return.
I still want to design a T-shirt though...
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I agree with Albarn completely. Thing is Geldof plays the media circuit very well, using emotive speeches, influencing sympathetic opinion, not that that hasn't been done before.
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Astounding,
I was watching Wrath of Khan last night, but all the good bits were edited out so I turned off. That has made me feel warm inside once again!
Gavfest Tickets
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Woah, pm sent!!!!