eat your parents

Righto lads, I'll pm you soon.

Interested Phil? I'm sure it would be a blast, of sorts?

Are you doing either of them Paul?

I'm on the second session, so I'm looking forward to it.

Squash this week? I'll mail you.

I'm thinking noisy anti-chords, off key notes (although my guitar is staying in standard, no sonic youth this time), unpredictable changes, stripped songs, accumulating into a thoroughly horrible experience.

Oh, and no melody whatsoever, without decending into sprawling noise.

Of course this is just an idea.

Takers, anyone? (It doesn't just have to be drums, bass, guitars etc)

I think something has to be said about the dj's last night too. Superb.

I don't think I've been to a better gig.

I thought the Liars were amazing. I haddn't heard the new album, just the first record, and my how everything had changed in their style.

I'm nursing my ears because of Wire.

Fucking hell.

I just found a virus called Trojan horse on my computer, and then today, I received an email with another virus in it.

According to the BBC yesterday, it costs businesses 10 000 a year because of a growing rivalry between hacker gangs, or something.

I don't know whether that's really hit the mark, but the number of virus' abroad in emails and on the internet seems to be going up to me.

oh my...........

I managed to get a Marshall Compressor for 24 off Ebay a few months backl, and Gav from Masamune got a Tokai Distortion pedal for 15. Wow.

I have to say that the Tokai distortion is the best I've heard. I love my Rat all the same, but the Tokai strips paint... and your ears.

Gav was telling me you can chip current pedals, so you can mold a new sound. Might be worth looking into if you have a cheaper pedal you're not so keen on.

Yo,

I really appreciated the help everyone gave me on my last thread, just wondered if someone can help me again.

Is there any main difference in a straight or slant 4x12 cab?

Also, I've been looking into speakers, and can't seem make up my mind regarding what size cab I should get. My main ideas are:

4x12 with G12T-75/Seventy 80 celestion speakers

or a 2x12 with G12T-100 celestion speakers

Obviously I've been trying stuff out, but any advice would be great too.

Originally posted by Biz:

None of them has seen XS RELOCAT but you can next Monday at Dr Drakes 830 for 9 pm 26 April supporting Succioperro so be early.

see you there!

Could someone help me with an email addy or phone number? Please pm if you can.

Thanks

yes, I'm very interested. Hmm, might go down, woop!

Originally posted by betamax:

.....ahhh see, thats just more evidence that you dont have the remotest fucking clue what you are speaking about

Joy Division....new wave....good one!

and ive never branded real shocks Art Punk.....just the media twats looking for a label do that for us

fuckwit

This is where you come out with the usual bullshit "We're anti pop terrorists" or something. How anarchic, and arrogant.

I guess you being a prick online helps with the psuedo image?

Originally posted by betamax:

yikes!

when the fuck were joy division new wave

this is a piss take yes/no?

*bales out before things just get too ridiculous*

Yeah, stumpy, I thought branding Real Shocks as Art Punk was stupid too.

Yeah New Wave was roughly given to Joy Division, although bands like Television are put under that label too.

Art Punk to me is bands like Sonic Youth, as someone else said it originated in the 80's. It came from New York whether Sonic Youth originally played at some alternative venue (I forget the name). The owner of that venue gave the term to Sonic Youth.

Apparently a lot of the creative mediums mixed in NY and he believed that "Art" was the best conceptual name for the band. I think that's right, if memory serves me...

I'm afraid whoever says they're under this "label" might be a bit misguided. I've never reall known anyone to describe themselves as Art Punk, just their music.

Originally posted by redmeat:

Have you tried running it through the cab?

???????????????

I put my mates not so hot Fender champ 20W ss practice amp through my marshall cab and it sounded great. It was super loud as well. I gigged with this set-up once and it was pretty cool. Ian fae Josephine used it and was suitably impressed.

Never knew you could do such things.

Then again my knowledge is limited to distortion pedals and mics, and even then I bet I could know a lot more.

You know Sandy, these different accounts cause confusion and, in my dreams, copulation.

There are so many nice ladies down here.... oh yeah!

It was really funny, "Scabberdeen" is how Tim described the place

Thanks very much to all.

Red Meat - Having the ability in an amp to have a bit of break up on heavier clean strumming is probably my aim.

I have a 15w Vox Cambridge amp which is amazing for recording clean guitar yet can overdrive just slightly on punchy hard hitting.

The reason I'm asking is I've been looking at Orange amps, and they have a great 30w head. I just wanted to background check lower wattage heads.

50watts for a head is still amazingly loud. We were recording and someone came in, saying they felt they were at a "stadium rock consort"outside.

It ended the take, and my life.

The Rat is a fucking beast

Oh and may I also ask about heads in general.

I realise if you have a valves then driving them harder gives a better sound, so are 30 watt heads good, or too weak?

I take it this means high frequency?

If so, what difference in sound do they have?

Thanks

Words cannot describe how brutal it was.

My guts are pounded.

Barfly isn't the best for sound though.

when, blasty?

Originally posted by iain44s:

alot of the time a separate mixing engineer is essential...the producer has been working on the stuff so long already and knows it so well that it is hard to get decent perspective on the mix...the fresh ears of a mix engineer can really breathe new life into a recording. also a good producer doesnt always make a good mix engineer...mixing is an art unto itself i suppose.

So what's the difference between someone who is a mixing engineer and someone who masters tracks?