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I prefer Turkish Tailors as their alliteration is superior.

if you dont like constructive criticism why put your song up on this forum

right, i've stayed an outsider on this beforehand, bit of dissing of my band doesn't really affect me, any sane person knows that not everyone on the planet likes the same thing, its just something you deal with. but i have realised tonight that this whole thread is not just about bands, but has become a personal matter, for reasons i cannot understand. i'd just like to say how childish this whole thing is, its beyond a joke. certain people's behaiviour in a certain club tonight proved to me that people can no longer appreciate criticism. i took the time to listen to the songs linked, and i feel that they are cliched, show no forward movement, and are just generally dull. but that's just my opinion. the punk scene has moved forward a lot in the past ten years, even the pop punk scene. my opinions are not a dig at anyone, simply my opinion. and i'm man enough to deal with anyone disliking my band, i don't expect everyone to like it. sorry about the essay post, i just don't get how people can be so uptight about opinions, i mean, everyone's got one, surely your own view upon yourself is what matters, not what anyone else thinks? ps certain people need to grow up.

No wonder you went bust.