Guest DustyDeviada Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 This raised a smile.On a serious note though, interesting stuff going on in the US elections today.Good luck to the great Kinky Friedman in Texas, although it looks like he's not going to make it.http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1612492006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 This raised a smile.On a serious note though, interesting stuff going on in the US elections today.Good luck to the great Kinky Friedman in Texas, although it looks like he's not going to make it.http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1612492006Unless the dreadful spelling on the banner is deliberate, I'm extremely concerned that these bozos are in charge of big shooty-gunnys o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Unless the dreadful spelling on the banner is deliberate, I'm extremely concerned that these bozos are in charge of big shooty-gunnys o_OIt's deliberate.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15499174/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKMartin Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 In the whole Kerry "botched joke" debacle, did anyone stop to think that what he said was mostly true?Don't see many PhD students or chess players occupying Baghdad.AKM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incredibledisc Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 In the whole Kerry "botched joke" debacle, did anyone stop to think that what he said was mostly true?Don't see many PhD students or chess players occupying Baghdad.AKMYep, not to do anyone in the armed forces a disservice as I'm their ranks harbour many, many highly intelligent people. But when it come to what's traditionally referred to as the "poor bloody infantry" the largest proportion of recruits are drawn from the socially and economically deprived sections of the population and therefore tend to have large numbers of those from non-academic backgrounds. This is hardly a new phenomenon - in Vietnam most soldiers were only educated to High School level as college students were exempt from the draft. As I recall, Kerry himself served in Vietnam and was either a highly decorated hero or a craven coward depending on who you listen to.But hey, it seems that criticism of the armed forces is un-American these days.To be contentious for a moment - regardless of your views on the reasons for being in Iraq and Afghanistan - does anyone else notice a slight irony in the recent news story that said the armed forces were struggling to get recruits as too many potential candidates were put off by the prospect of being killed in a war. Ditto serving soldiers complaining about having their lives endangered by being sent to war zones...<Rant mode on> - isn't that what you're being fucking paid for?! Did you really believe the recruitment adverts that made it look like the army was just a big fucking game? Your business is death! To blatantly steal from Bill Hicks for a second "Excuse me, but aren't you all a bunch of fucking hired killers? Shut up! You are thugs, and when we need you to go blow the fuck out of a nation of little brown people, we'll let you know. Until then "<rant mode off> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Yep, not to do anyone in the armed forces a disservice as I'm their ranks harbour many, many highly intelligent people. But when it come to what's traditionally referred to as the "poor bloody infantry" the largest proportion of recruits are drawn from the socially and economically deprived sections of the population and therefore tend to have large numbers of those from non-academic backgrounds. This is hardly a new phenomenon - in Vietnam most soldiers were only educated to High School level as college students were exempt from the draft. Yep, as the great Steve Earle sang in Copperhead Road:"I volunteered for the Army on my birthday They draft the white trash first,'round here anyway"and great lyrics on Rich Man's war too:Jimmy joined the army cause he had no place to go There aint nobody hirin round here since all the jobs went down to Mexico Reckoned that hed learn himself a trade maybe see the world Move to the city someday and marry a black haired girl Somebody somewhere had another plan Now hes got a rifle in his hand Rollin into Baghdad wonderin how he got this far Just another poor boy off to fight a rich mans war Bobby had an eagle and a flag tattooed on his arm Red white and blue to the bone when he landed in Kandahar Left behind a pretty young wife and a baby girl A stack of overdue bills and went off to save the world Been a year now and hes still there Chasin ghosts in the thin dry air Meanwhile back at home the finance company took his car Just another poor boy off to fight a rich mans war When will we ever learn When will we ever see We stand up and take our turn And keep tellin ourselves were free Ali was the second son of a second son Grew up in Gaza throwing bottles and rocks when the tanks would come Aint nothin else to do around here just a game children play Somethin bout livin in fear all your life makes you hard that way He answered when he got the call Wrapped himself in death and praised Allah A fat man in a new Mercedes drove him to the door Just another poor boy off to fight a rich mans war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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