Dr. Lecter

Now if only that would the end to this thread.....(ahhhh, if only... *goes into a daydream of a sunny day*)

how can we possibly end when we've only just begun

please don't shy away dear joe-X-2... the cyber playground can be a bullying place of sort

please clarify your point.. if you are employed in the arts/culture employment sector up here then surely u know there's currently more to it than a 3-yr wait for a new build

i agree that we can't let one-building solely take responsibility for arts in aberdeen, the points i referred to earlier are really saying that many avenues are already happening and in place... hence this development can only make progress more prolific

we have a world-leading school of art and other wonderful educational outlets.. independent galleries + studios popping up at an increasing rate.. the new build can only aid confidence in these establishments + their submission rates

but for the good of the people let us have a centre-piece that makes the arts accessible to all and strike down the negative spreaders (some that i unfortunately read in letters to the P+J while the new vision was going through planning)... this is a chance for aberdeen to grow from within the oil industry peg

think on this: an average of 14 people use union terrace gdns, our only central green lung, each day... scores more, maybe 10/20/30 times as many folk drink a ground-hogged pint, or 2, in exodus or revolution on any given night.. culturally taking us backwards - no offence to the musicians who play but those locations but the averageness on show (and right around town) is hardly inspiring for social activities within our boundaries

so let us quaff the grapes of italy under the stars of a northern light, while engrossed in the cultured output of the marvelous youth.. and be proud

(pass my hankey uncle monty)

The Union Square/Guild Square centre will be a massive lift to the shopping available in the city, integrating the train and bus stations and attracting new shoppers up here or retaining locals who would maybe head to Glasgow.

The pedestrianisation of Union Street will open up the whole area to become a much more pleasant place. No more crowded pavements or that familiar wait outside M&S for the green man to cross the road.

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ooooohh... a nasty, unpleasant whiff has displaced the crisp cherry flavour of my tuscan goblet in hand... what foolish words i see before me by way of man TONY

Union sq will be filled with the most hideous retail + entertainment outlets knows to mankind.. right in the middle of a port and THE FIRST THING THE LOVELY NEWCOMERS TO THE CITY SEE ON ARRIVAL AT EITHER STATION.. it's a monstrous grey shoebox devouring the landscape of listed facades.. including the potential of the tivoli etc.. absolutely demonic, unimaginative behaviour.. and with the slogan 'THINKING OF YOU'. I'm sorry but this design + development is not acceptable in this century.. even if a few lower echelons of humanity achieve a job on the lowest pay bracket as a result. Ask yourself, who benefits?? local independents i fear not.. let us all bland out together into a paste of stovy mush

As for pedestrianising the main thoroughfare.. for what i say?? so more alcohol induced demons have space to pish, shit and vomit on an evening?!? the road is over 50ft wide and will act as a bigger wind tunnel that moses could create on a day out to a curry factory.. try erecting your lovety bistro seating there...we're hardly squashed as it is... my word, think dear boy, THINK TONY THINK

and the main problem i see from these 'ideas' is the almost certain demise of The Green and harbour areas into stylish alternatives... blandom ensues and we lose initiatives to devleop them and the disgusting plight of those abandoned premises on bridge st totally fails..

again totally unacceptable and serious backward thinking from serial town killers... utterly shocking, shocking i say.

your other points hold some weight but lets not jump at every idea being a good one just because it is new.. behold the heritage Tony Marlin

Don't let it put you off that it's in the market.

indeed, i recently purchased a lovely safari suit from the army + navy chap on the floor above... but the air-packed survival food packs don't digest too well

been there for ages hasn't it. its is rather fucking good though.

as is the zen garden to be found at yatai... raw meat does digest so well in those confines

FUCK. OFF.

this was the undertone to my reply also... but u managed to capture it in a sharper, more precise fashion i would say

at least with a gaggle of philosophers we might have a wine bar of note to dream away a dark-less northern evening

i can confirm the chianti flowed beautifully on this evening... and someone even hung up my panama

Yeah but this isn't thee 'answer' to culturally moving forward/progressing

What mustn't happen is that the cultural sector sits back and waits for this to 'be' the solution we have all been waiting for. The only way the building will work is in it being becoming 'part' of an existing bigger picture and that bigger picture is everyone getting on and making their ideas and plans come to life and to not to talk shop all day.

The Peacock building, or whatever it will be called, has great potential but can only ever succeed as part of something and not as the something on it's own.

true, but there's a shit load of amazing arts + creativity already happening in aberdeen + area.. but sometimes hard to source where n when it's on...

so yes, while it shouldn't just be the answer 'to move forward' it will undoubtedly become the epi-centre for artists + creatives to have a real voice in abz... and attract newcomers to sectors they didn't realise they had the opportunity to explore.. all through a cutting edge building a mere 2hrs from the might of the central belt and the possible tourism benefits

with peacock currently hidden away behind the drunks of the castlegate.. and the stoic old-school arts centre hardly inspiring folk to get creative (with all the facilities it + other locations already offer) it is an amazing opportunity for aberdeen to take the arts forward with confidence, and most importantly, retain the skilled graduating talent that mostly seem set to head for pastures down south.. and who could previously blame them

dundee's DCA took art to the masses and the simmering talent came out in force..

ps.. project slogan has just opened new premises on langstane pl

pss. there should be an arts thread in this forum

psss. the skinny launches here soon which will hopefully give a greater voice to music, arts, comedy etc

pssss.. dr lecter has sipped chianti with the finest 'bodies' in europe but hasn't given up hope of ABZ coming good... just look at the opportunities and professionalism the skate park has given to many young riders