Fish out of water

naa.. she mentioned the words ' worse than chinese water torture'.... canna think what she means.

She didn't like our neighbour and used to get me to practice towards the wall between our house and theirs, so I had my uses. 8-)

But I think it was a long five years of putting up with me tootling away rather badly.

Agree with what you say to an extent but also have friends (indeed, I've experienced it myself) who have been OK'd for tours on the basis of your first two points but then been dumped (or gazumped) because of buy ons. None of these scenarios have been in the pop world - I am far too well endowed in the belly department to be in a boy band. Package tours I've never been a part of so can't comment.

I suspect that the reality is a horrible grey area somewhere in the middle, as I think the temptation to reduce costs does make the temptation of a financial inducement difficult to ignore. At the end of the day, there must be a rough taste decision - Delays are not going to appear on the same tour as a metal band, for example. But inside sub-genres there'll be a fair of lee-way as long as a band ticks particular aesthetic boxes.

For really small DIY bands putting their own tours on, none of the above would apply.

Ah, mum. Still a bloody liar after all these years

His arse, obviously.

Shut it or I'll bum you, you skin slapping tot.

To be fair, and in the tradition of the current government, I have plucked the percentage out of thin air as a rough gauge.

A more accurate post should have read "are the majority of tours not buy ons?"; certainly anectodal evidence from types down here seems to support the "Buy On" as a regular thing for your more well known bands. Presumably its the record company (and then ultimately the band itself that foots the bill).

If you have any constructive thoughts to the contrary, feel free to present them.

This reminds me of the mighty Sex and the City | Sarah Jessica Parker | Horse Face | Carrie Bradshaw | Mole.

Sublime. I almost spat my coffee at the screen when I saw that.

A couple of songs are fun but I'm not a fan. Old rubber face legging it's hardly surprising though - they been going through problems, health and otherwise all year. Been a bit of a disaster by all accounts.

Is he not like 105 or something?

Huzzah. Getting it delivered on the 19th. I'll be surprised if I can get a note out of it, it's been so long.

Its not new - it goes on all the time. Think about tours; 90% of the time the support isn't picked because the headliner's like them, its because the support bought themselves onto the tour. Helps the headliners costs down.

Check thy PM's.

Having perused the images I have to come to the conclusion that even that images that have been extensively touched up still reveal that she has the face of a horse.

If that's what fuels your fantasies whilst lying in your wanking chariot at night, then fair play to you.

I however, have a preference for birds that you don't feed hay and walk round a paddock twice a day.

Face it though... None of us would say no

I'd rather pump Harry Hill.

She's RAF dude, and comes across as a bit of a bunny boiler to boot.

I would actually take this off your hands if the valves/slides are still lubed and not stuck - my only problem is when I'd next be up in Aberdeen!

How'd it cost 5 million? Was Golden Shower Sarkozy involved?

Yeah, agreed. I think its taking the piss really.

It's got me thinking though - Glasgow has FAR too many venues and all it does is serve to dilute an already paltry gigging crowd.

We could do with losing agood few. But not Stereo, me likey Stereo. much more than Tuts.

Indeed. I'll be gnashing my teeth too right enough as I'm gigging at 3 of those venues in the next 6 weeks.

In addition, one of my locals The 78 (the old Stereo) is also affected, didn't bother mentioning it earlier as it doesn't do gigs now.

Him and the Acid thrower are only going to serve 12 and 16 years respectively though?

I only caught the start of the programme as I was going out the door to the studio.

It was right after reading this thread about the cat too - right depressed by the time I got to the studio.

People can be such shits.

Morning peeps,

Absolutely nothing to do with Aberdeen I know.

However, there are obvious repercussions for Aberdeen bands playing there should the venues have to close:

Evening Times: News

Its gonna leave a hell of a dent in soap dodger territory if they do close.

Me neither but I certainly enjoyed the outting of the little shit

Agreed. Have absolutely no sympathy for the wee fucker. I'd hope his parents have taken the appropriate action. If not, they'll be needing a slap too.

Bastard has a 221,000 shower AND Carla Bruni.

He must have got one hell of a deal for his immortal soul.

She is a fox - maybe she came with the shower, hence the slightly higher price.

That's the problem - most of these things sound bollocks. And we're all too used the the tonal systems that are currently in use.

Supposedly 221,000 for a shower!!! Nice to know politicians expenses are being highlighted elsewhere too.

So. What exactly does almost quarter of a million get you in terms of a shower?

I don't even think Saddam Hussein would've spent that much on a bathroom, and he liked his luxury bathrooms.

That's actually an established theory in moral philosophy, but not the most radical one by a long shot.

There are some excellent arguments to say that having kids at all is morally wrong.

Have a look.

Parenthood and Procreation (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Took me right back to sociology at uni! Pretty heavy going though.

Yeah, nice one mate. Just going to be able to stop people fucking are you? Or are you just going to take away their children as soon as they're born?

Ridiculous idea.

Glad you didn't bother to read the "not sure I'd subscribe to this" in my original post before biting.

As I said, it was someone else's idea, not mine and it was presented to stimulate debate.

As it is, you're right - you can't stop people getting jiggy with it; so short of issuing chastity belts to girls and bell end covers for boys, there's no real way of enforcing something like that.

Stu - Think what they're talking about is putting the PramFaces in a supervised home with other PramFaces rather than giving them a 2 bedroom in Tillydrone to crack on and conceive the next one in.

I'm sure it would conjure a complete new set of problems of its own though

Yup, social work departments would see their caseloads halved.

Is a Bb trumpet? I've been looking to get a horn again for years.