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malt mall? i ain't heard of that place before! where / what is it like, etc...?

Mountains - Choral. What a serene album.

For those unfamiliar, they would probably appeal to fans of Eluvium, Tim Hecker and Remember Remember.

have you heard their previous, 'mountains, mountains, mountains'? much more fuzzy/feedback, like logreybeam/fennesz/tim hecker, than choral (which surprised me on my first listen!). long out of print though ! i've got the lp but i've been dying to try and get a hold of the mp3s!

is yours the colnago conversion then?

break the habit, too. they've been supporting spraynard on most (all?) their uk dates.

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Fantastic site with some great free downloads.Really enjoying Get Bent,Potboiler and Where We Live

it's brilliant. dave who runs it is a proper dude. if you like get bent you should get the how do we jump this high record (pretty much the same guys). snowing, iron chic, yo man go discog, it's all good. the acoustic eric ayotte stuff is great too. like a folk punk mountain goats.

aberdeen freshers starts the 21st dude!

Fixed gear bikes take a while to pick up as they have only one gear. I've no idea what people see in them as they're useless for inclines or travelling at speed.

Hipsters, IMO.

for just now i'd have to agree with you. the amount of hipsters rolling around on fixed is pretty funny. i saw a girl on one today in glasgow wearing a big pair of sunglasses and hot pants. i kid you not. BUT, try telling bike hero sheldon brown that fixied are for hipsters. he's have your head (if he was still alive). i'd admit its an acquired taste, but don't just write them off because some kid bought one from urban outfitters. its just a fad just now. it'll come and go. something new will take centre stage etc....

read what sheldon has to say here - Fixed Gear Bicycles for the Road

useless for traveling at speed? have you cycled a decently made one before? if you've got the right gear you fly pretty crikey fast.

but whatever i don't even ride a fixed gear just now. either way, cycle runs should not be limited to your style of bike

i guess this could go in the sports section....but whatevs. its just as social/general as sport! but yeah, when i'm back up in 'deen for uni, does anyone want to cycle the streets at night or something? i'd never heard of the beCyCle place - beCyCle - until a few months ago, but i'll defo be checking it out when i'm up! looks like they do rides too. they look for folk to do voluntary work as well, which i quite fancy doing. hopefully getting involved there will let me understand my bike a bit more (i'm still a bit of a n00b).

so yeah. anyone into it? what do people ride? i'm on a brian rourke racer just now. reynolds 531 so it flieeessss. oh and i came across forum celebrity old gold posting on the lfgss forums which was a pleasant surprise! seems like there's a bit of fixed gear thing picking up in aberdeen which is cool.

I'm always happy to piss off the septics, but I can't help feeling Scotland has been totally shafted here. I'm glad he's out, but only because he didn't do it. The down side is that he has dropped his appeal which was possibly the only chance we had of getting close to the truth of what happened. What seems most likely though, is that the Pan Am bomb was carried out by Syrian terrorists, on the orders of Iran in retaliation for the shooting down of an Iranian passenger jet by a US warship in 1988. Immediately after Lockerbie this was widely recognised as being the reason, and investigations were proceeding well in that direction. They even identified and named a Syrian terrorist cell who were making bombs hidden in Toshiba radios exactly the same as the Lockerbie one.

Then suddenly in April 89 President Bush Snr ordered Britain to stop this investigation into Syria. Less than a year later the US attacked Saddam Hussein's forces in Kuwait, with the assistance of... Syria.

In 1991 an extremely dodgy case was cobbled together against Libya, which the Scottish Courts actually initially rejected as being bollocks. But Megrahi (and an 'accomplice who was found innocent) was offered as a scapegoat and Libya eventually 'apologised' for the bombing and paid out millions in compensation. Suddenly, previous long-standing sanctions against Libya were lifted and billions of dollars of trade flowed between Libya, UK and US.

Libya got their trade back, US got their bogeyman for the public to hate and be proud of their government for catching him. And the truth about what really happened was conveniently swept under the carpet.

But unfortunately the scapegoat always protested his innocence, stories started to emerge and calls for a full inquiry got louder. Megrahi's appeal could have brought up some very awkward questions. Luckily for everyone except Megrahi, he got cancer. This gave a good reason to offer his freedom, with the bonus that he could only get out if he dropped his appeal.

It seems quite likely that despite what the US administration are saying in public, they must be delighted that this appeal will now never happen and quite possibly arranged the release deal for this reason. Sure, the public will be annoyed that Megrahi got out, but hey, that's Scotland's fault, isn't it. So let's never buy their whisky again...

Paul Foot: Lockerbie's dirty secret | UK news | The Guardian

whats the deal behind this Iranian passenger jet downing in 1988?

but yeah. lybia still got shit from the states ever after they offered the guys up for trial. libya were open to a trail in another country under an international court but the states STILL wanted to the trial to happen in the US (or Scotland). and the sanctions - the UN sanctions etc..., were stopped immediately yeah, but the US ones continued for a decent amount of time i think!

did anyone see MacAskill on newsnight last night? "how does it feel to know that you'll forever be known as the man that released a mass murderer?". he must be having an awful time. he's a lightweight though, as much of the scottish parliament is. westminster probably wanted the release but have stepped waaaay back for any of the proceedings...leaving scotland in the tall grass, really. i know its a scottish issue, but its international nature and all that... anyway; i was flicking the news channels last night to see the reaction and came across the sky news coverage (who actually watches this, i mean, jeez!) where the women said something along the lines of, "well, the scots probably thought it would be another ronnie biggs and go away quickly....they don't appreciate the relationship between the US/UK/libya...blah blah." scotland are probably have their head at water level just now but there's no need for that!

also. those images of the megrahi celebrations in libya etc..., probably weren't a good idea. didn't look that good!

Edan - Beauty and the beat (probably my favourite rap album of the last 10 years since the rest of my taste seems to be stuck in a hole somewhere in the mid 90s)

yes yes yes YES! album is so ace.

Nail on head. Almost. He may have had a role in the planning or execution of the bombing, but he was not the prime mover, he was just another patsy. The clamour for his continued detention is a totally understandable emotional response from those who wish to see someone, anyone punished for the atrocity, when in fact the real culprits are the ones we're shaking hands with at summits and signing trade agreements with.

He's dropped his appeal, so he's no longer contesting the conviction, in the knowledge he'll be freed in a few days anyway. Scotland and the families get a conviction, Libya welcomes back a folk hero, and everyone gets the feeling they've drifted off ten minutes into a spy thriller and woken up just as the credits are away to roll.

Realpolitik. Don'tcha just love it?

pretty bang on like, yeah. i'd like to see a proper investigation into the bombing though. libya have been accused of several acts of state sponsored terror (so have the US and UK), but i sure both iran and syria have been mentioned as possible culprits for the bombing too, no? i'm not too hot on the facts really, though. no doubt the americans will be pretty miffed if he's released, even though libya haven't taken part in any acts of state terror since 94 (apparently) their relationship is still pretty bad.

i have no problem with him going home.

I just bought Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago, bit of a change from most of the stuff I usually listen to but I have to say this is one hell of an album.

If anyone can recommend other artists/albums like this I'd be ever so grateful

peter broderick - home

listen to the album in full on the type records website here. just my opinion, but when it comes to acoustic guitars and vocal panning, i prefer it to the bon iver record.

whit?! so i am?! i just wanted to have some fun thats all !

anyway, this show should be great.

why would you get a date over anyone else though? you never help out any other bands with gigs

man, are ya trying to be a dick here or what? is it necessary for me to have completed some sort of quota before i'm allowed to try and put bands on?

edit; also, i'd spoken to algernon about the tour before the dates were announced and we'd kinda yeeha'd about a date up here. maybe it was just talk but whatever; i still thought it was a possibility.

hopefully TCK will play stuff from the first 7". down the street is a choooon.

still gutted i didn't get an 'deen date though.

anyone appear to tell you to turn it down?

what is your problem with that place?

prices and attitude, really. justifying selling still in print dischord stuff for double the price is kinda fruity.

i wouldn't bother with the cavern, to be honest. you should check out the gig at cellar on friday though.

enjoy your time in aberdeen.

^ SNAP

should be waaaay better live i reckon. sounds like there something missing from the recordings, definitely.

so stoked about this. the rabbit theory are so awesome. like 95 all over again. defo be at THIS.

if you like angry as fuck powerviolence

Vaccine

ex members of Bucket Full of Teeth and Orchid. Fucking AMAZING.

have you heard failures? more will killingsworth stuff on youth attack (same as vaccine).

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lp is great.

i've become less and less bothered by things like artwork. i can take it or leave it really. i still buy hardcopy music when i can, but i could easily get by without. i mean, hey, nice artwork on a cd/lp - great. but i'll look at it once and then never again. i think the relationship between the musician and listener is much more important. thats what makes me want to buy a record, not what its wrapped in.

harry potter was pretty rad, if a little slow burning for the first half.

that split is awesome! on the topic of trainwreck, i still blast the 4 way split a lot. ghostlimb slay!

oh hai.

on a serious note; i don't understand why we're still at a two sets to win stage for the womens game either. especially with players like the williams sisters who could probably serve seven shades of shit out of some of the men.