davidm

http://ultimateslaymaster.bandcamp.com/

ULTIMATE SLAYMASTER:

Two noble warriors from Edinburgh have decided to listen to nothing but KARP, BIG BUSINESS, LIGHTNING BOLT AND MASTODON, creating the best sound the world has ever known. 

Kirstenin at Broadcast in Glasgow for the Marnie Stern gig on Sunday night,

you missed me too then! if i knew who you were then i could have reverse stalked you.

hiya

this is my band, star rover. we do loud pop music.

https://soundcloud.com/starrover

we have a new song up - addult. 

we are playing at cellar 35 on the 9th of june with farewell singapore, pinact and others.

let me know what you think of these songs!

cheers!

this is what I hope to look like someday with my beard. someday.

Same thing for three and half minutes, except sometimes it's quiet. 

bass/blastbeats!

There will be one or two new songs from Das McManus, with the possibility of a cover as well. Exciting.

SPACE BOAT.

Also:

https://soundcloud.com/starrover

Some more songs from us, enjoy!

ah!  we did spy you in mono too but weren't totally convinced.  there then followed a chat about whether it was you or not.  

 

you did well to avoid us in the 13th note.  we were fucked by that point.

ha, yeah, i saw you guys at one point, but i think it was just after my brother arrived. i had to run to the train station to get back to edinburgh - i was in a pretty bad state myself then!

Ahh we saw you walk in to Mono and kept looking at you when we went the loo to say hello but you blanked us. Obviously you were just ignoring us to try and get a clean stalk!

i didn't even notice, i guess the discussion i was having with my brother about independence was too interesting for me to notice anything around me! the only reason i even posted was because kirsten kept telling me to do it "so the officers don't beat you to it!"

Who: Chris and Dave Officer

When: Friday night, half 6ish?

Where: Mono, in Glasgow. Saw them again at half 11ish in the 13th Note but they spotted me, boooo.

D Boon

Brigid Dawson (second from the left obvz)

Carrie Brownstein obviously. FURY!!!

Mike FUCKING Watt.

You don't respect this guy? Fuck you!

Marnie Stern. Swoon.

Did you read your own Guardian article? According to that it was a training pre-cursor to paid work at the Olympics (rightly or wrongly by company in charge).

I'm unsure why the Monarchy has anything to do with the state of the British economy. Gordon Brown isn't royalty is he?

the argument appears to be that the royal family bring lots of money into the British economy, therefore they're a good thing. I believe that this couldn't be further from the truth. I think they're perfect example of social inequality that exists in this country, so I am anti-monarchy. I can see that they bring money into the country, but I also think that it's nothing but a short-term boost. Ultimately the last few days are just a celebration of wealth and privilege, and I think that's ridiculous.

I am also very aware that I am a tremendously inarticulate person and I'm probably not coming across as being very persuasive/knowledgeable.

ok then. let's just see the royal family save the british economy then. i'm so glad that they get lots of tourists into the country. i'm going to find those people who weren't paid for working at the jubilee celebrations (what gain will they possibly get from it? learning how to work at a fucking celebration of old rich people?) and tell them that the royal family is ok because some idiots buy overpriced shit in london.

Yes but that doesn't seem to be your point. You seem to keep saying they get paid for doing nothing. No, they get paid for being landowners.

well done to them, then. sounds like they're really deserving people.

oh my god. READ SPOONIES LINK. it's not for existing. it's rent for land the family owns.

I HAVE READ IT, THANKS. My wording wasn't the best, sorry. I think the royal family is an archaic institution. If other people want to celebrate them, that's fine. To me, they'll always be a symbol of inequality within British society, but whatever. Keep on being proud to be British.

They also generate millions and millions for just existing. You dont see what its worth, but millions adore the Royal family.

What millions and millions is this? Where does this money go? What benefit has anyone ever gained from the Royal Family? The money earned from people buying things to do with them doesn't go to normal people!

For what its worth, im no Royalist, i dont really care one way or the other, we as a society have fundamental problems, especially when it comes to spending money on things like this, but the Royal family are not to blame for the poverty in this country, nor has this event left our country with millions of debt we need to clear countary to what is being banded about.

I never said they were to blame for poverty. That's a totally different debate and one that might not be wise to get into!

No i didnt. My point was, why are we not questioning the millions, probably billions spent on the olympics, or the millions england spent trying to win a world cup, where are the posters about what that money could have been spent on instead of what it was spent on? You could apply this argument to any major event that happens, they all cost and generate money to their own levels, but all of this money could have been spent on the NHS or the homeless or anything similar. Its easy to have a go at the Monarch when you dont care about it, would you have the same argument as a football fan when someone claims the world cup should be cancelled because the money could be spent saving people?

Yes, you're right, you could make this argument for any major event. But the monarchy and the Olympics are two totally different things. The monarchy is given millions of pounds in money each year for simply existing. Over the last few days large parts of the country have danced with glee, celebrating the fact that a woman is still alive. I really don't see what's worth celebrating over. The Olympics is a group of people competing at sport. (for what it's worth I'm not convinced it's a great idea)

Thanks for that, but the jubilee is not a small event, its a world wide thing. Celebrated by hundreds of millions.

that has nothing to do with what i posted, you said that if the jubilee was cancelled then all major sporting events would be cancelled worldwide. which is a completely illogical argument.

Thats a different argument, and one i actually agree on to an extent. But if you were to get rid of the Jubilee, we should be looking at cancelling the Olympics and anything even remotely similar, and not just in this country all around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

you weren't anti-party, you were being anti-monarchy. which is an entirely different thing. I can assume most people thought spending all that money on a party instead of decent causes was stupid.

I think the Jubilee celebration was disgusting. I also happen to think that the Royal Family are an outdated institution that offer no value to the ordinary person. I also think that these two beliefs are related. If most people thought that spending the amount of money that was spent on the Jubilee was stupid, then they'd be agreeing with me, surely?

Maybe doctors on £100-odd grand a year threatening to strike for losing a bit of their pension pot could rethink and help out the NHS?

I'd blame that on the fact that there was no effective political opposition, rather than the doctors themselves. Next to no medical organisations/unions/etc actually supported the NHS privatisation.

Outwith the International relations that exsist purely because of the Royal family and continue to exsist because of them, they generate billions for this country every year, have you ever been to London? Ever been near the Royal Palace? The place is fucking hoaching with tourists from all over the world every single day of the week, people travelled from every corner of the world to be in the UK this week, the money generated from this Jubilee will out weight the costs. Bunting aside, your talking about millions of people spending a lot of money in our country on everything Monarch related.

Right, because all of this money is going to trickle down to the average British person? The same argument was about the Royal Wedding last year. "Oh, it's just one day, lots of people will spend money on royal family related things, therefore the economy'll get going again!"

In three months time everything will be back to normal. We'll still have a (relatively) high unemployment rate, a partially privatised NHS and hundreds of thousands of people living below the poverty line. The reason that I'm criticising the whole thing is because it's a celebration of a family that get special privileges by virtue of being in that family. I didn't think it would be such a radical position to take to say that celebration of privilege in 2012 is horrible.

The fact you have to ask that backs up my point completely, do a bit of research on something before you start criticising it.

please don't be so patronising. i know the pro-monarchist arguments. if you can show me what benefits having a royal family brings to the UK then tell me. how much money do they bring in from tourism?

Its easy to have a go at the Monarch especially when you have no idea what they do for the country. I'm no Royalist, not at all, but this is just being used as another easy excuse for idiots to post pics of homeless people with stupid captions about saving them with the money that has been spent. Its all a bit pathetic really.

ok then, tell me, what exactly do they do for the country?

What the cunting fuck is bunting?

http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/ekmps/shops/speed/images/union-jack-great-britain-bunting-6-metres-20-flags--879-p.jpg