tranzmute

Put it into context' date=' the majority of people were fine. Thats why no one bothered to revolt. Big ups to Rosa Luxemberg and crew but they were destroyed because popular support was with the Nazi's. I'm not agreeing with what the Nazi's did, but if you look at it in a purely pragmatic way, it was rather ingenious.[/quote']

What ingenious????? in sadistic, disturbed and depraved way.?

Read up on the childcare practices of pre-nazi Germany and you will find the cause mate. people used to beat their babies...in order to give them "control" over their emotions. Hay presto the same generation turn into cold sadistic killers/ Thers nothing ingenious about it ...it s depraved

I would be one of those passing socialists.

Yet you can't really argue with Hitler' date=' pragmatically, if you weren't a jew, a socialist or a gypsy things would be pretty darn good. Goering was a smart man too, my favourite nazi as it were, his Nuremberg defence was ace.[/quote']

also if you wernt mentally ill, disabled, different in any way, u'd be ok hey. WISE UP

well thats really fantastic

hahaha you are hilarious!

anyway' date=' if its possible to stop your sides from literally crumpling with the severe laughter induced by that thread....getting back to the point.

The urgency of before is over now, but i'd still be interested in finding out good pizza deals.

[b'](Not Birdman)

glad to brighten up ur day. try that pizza hut deal with the 4 varieties of pizza...its yum

your local rubish bin may do one/ especially if you live in town. theres many a discarded pizza for not-birdy-seagul man to munch on

sonic youth-pattern recognition

janes addiction-three days

the beatles-helter skelter

the futureheads-hounds of love

the source featuring candi staton-u got the love

I really like it as well. post 9/11 effect is evident. Its pretty mellow in parts. plastic sun is one of my alltime fave tracks.

I havnt listened to it in a while. I had it on constantly about two years ago but I would say its mayb my least fave sonic youth album. I rate 1000 leaves and experimental jetset....as two of the best

but theya re all ace in my opinion

Thats an ace wee track. 10 out of 10 for originality

Birdman or (not)-birdman....you are sicker than I previously thought.

Yeah that one made my thoughts spin

The new cardoard lassiters is great.

ohh me too

although this is what came up for the spelliing Transmute. theres nothing for tranzmute spelt with a zed

http://members.shaw.ca/legion_roll_call/legionnaires/element_lad/

he is element man

good to see theres another female drummer out there. power to you. whats your bands name?

haha for a second I thought this thread was about me.

sometimes I wonder if G Bush intimidates our country and our government get pushed into making decisions that benefit US.

(Not Birdman)

yes so did I.

thats fantastic........

Not surprising really is it. .... I dont think he makes very good decisions for the US, too much of Americas wealth relys on the exploitation of the third world.

Sorry but I don't consider myself as coming from a 'rough home' just because my father used a form of discipline. I personally agree with his actions and believe your views are misguided. If he had beat the shit out of me for no reason that's a different matter.

Why do people seem unable to distinguish in any form or fashion? Is it too complicated to think of things in differing situations? It was the same in the capital punishment thread. It's too easy to generalise every conceivable situation.

I have known people in my life who were totally mollycoddled by their parents and used to run away from home to get what they wanted and their parents would buckle and buy them whatever. They were also some of the most violent people I have ever met. Maybe they were just that way inclined no matter what but I can't help but think lack of discipline is a key part of it.

Anyway' date=' I see in todays paper some poor wee 5 year old was possibly hung from a tree by a gang of boys and girls. had deep rope burns on his neck. It would be interesting to know their family situation, I bet all 5 of them weren't from 'rough' homes. [/quote']

. I was just trying to make the point that not all people end up violent if they are victims of physical punishment. But to make my point clearer I would say families in which parents physically chastise their kids are 'rough' simply because they use violence. (whether it be excessive or not).There doesnt have to be poverty.

Am not having a dig at you I hope it doesnt come across that way, just I have quite strong veiws on how we treat kids.

I wish Vimto was more freely availible. Its quite hard to get ahold of these days.

I think there's a marked difference between a clout round the ear from your parents for misbehaving and setting fire to someone/beating the shit out of someone/being generally anti-social and filming it on a mobile phone personally but no matter' date=' each to their own opinion.[/quote']

Violence begins at home in whatever shape or form. I think you are totallly misguided in your opinions on discipline. Kids can only learn respect and kindness + empathy for others if they get that at home. am not saying people from rough homes arnt capable of empathy ...but generally to hit your kids only leads leads to them having psychological issues and certainly doesnt teach anyone a lesson..

shut it grime

it would be perfect if thoughs neds didnt try and take beer off us every time im down their

I wittnessed such things once when I was there with my loved-ones. I couldnt beleive it. The drunker -bozzer-radge tried to hit the lad when he wouldnt give him some beers. Ive never been back since

and as for things to do...the winter gardens...........loveley floral scents.

Seaton park on a sunny day + the third world centre on a rainy one

cats should be given respect ....de-clawing ,shaving ,bathing even(unless absoluley necessry) all counts as cruelty in my opinion.

completley fake .!

Interpol-Take you on a cruise

he was too busy trying to get laid