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Can you please elaborate on that.
Yes, Bush was interviewed by a panel of public people and one child asked him what was going through his mind on September 11. He replied that he'd just seen the first plane fly into the tower and being a pilot himself thought, "There's one bad pilot". Then he was whisked away into the classroom to read "My Pet Goat" with the children.
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It does seem to be a bit of a common misconception that the war on Iraq is what started hostility towards America.
American military aggression has been a consistent feature in 20th century world history. America has used missiles or bombs on around 22 countries since the end of WWII.
Oh yeah, not to mention US military interventions:
SOUTH DAKOTA
1890 (-?)
Troops
300 Lakota Indians massacred at Wounded
Knee.
ARGENTINA
1890
Troops
Buenos Aires interests protected.
CHILE
1891
Troops
Marines clash with nationalist rebels.
HAITI
1891
Troops
Black workers revolt on U.S.-claimed Navassa Island defeated.
IDAHO
1892
Troops
Army suppresses silver miners' strike.
HAWAII
1893 (-?)
Naval, troops
Independent kingdom overthrown, annexed.
CHICAGO
1894
Troops
Breaking of rail strike, 34 killed.
NICARAGUA
1894
Troops
Month-long occupation of Bluefields.
CHINA
1894-95
Naval, troops
Marines land in Sino-Japanese War.
KOREA
1894-96
Troops
Marines kept in Seoul during war.
PANAMA
1895
Troops, naval
Marines land in Colombian province.
NICARAGUA
1896
Troops
Marines land in port of Corinto.
CHINA
1898-1900
Troops
Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies.
PHILIPPINES
1898-1910(-?)
Naval, troops
Seized from Spain, killed
600,000 Filipinos.
CUBA
1898-1902(-?)
Naval, troops
Seized from Spain, still hold Navy
base.
PUERTO RICO
1898(-?)
Naval, troops
Seized from Spain, occupation
continues.
GUAM
1898(-?)
Naval, troops
Seized from Spain, still use as base.
MINNESOTA
1898(-?)
Troops
Army battles Chippewa at Leech Lake.
NICARAGUA
1898
Troops
Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur.
SAMOA
1899(-?)
Troops
Battle over succession to throne.
NICARAGUA
1899
Troops
Marines land at port of Bluefields.
IDAHO
1899-1901
Troops
Army occupies Coeur d'Alene mining region.
OKLAHOMA
1901
Troops
Army battles Creek Indian revolt.
PANAMA
1901-14
Naval, troops
Broke off from Colombia 1903, annexed Canal Zone 1914-99.
HONDURAS
1903
Troops
Marines intervene in revolution.
DOMINICAN REP.
1903-04
Troops
U.S. interests protected in Revolution.
KOREA
1904-05
Troops
Marines land in Russo-Japanese War.
CUBA
1906-09
Troops
Marines land in democratic election.
NICARAGUA
1907
Troops
"Dollar Diplomacy" protectorate set up.
HONDURAS
1907
Troops
Marines land during war with Nicaragua.
PANAMA
1908
Troops
Marines intervene in election contest.
NICARAGUA
1910
Troops
Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto.
HONDURAS
1911
Troops
U.S. interests protected in civil war.
CHINA
1911-41
Naval, troops
Continuous occupation with flare-ups.
CUBA
1912
Troops
U.S. interests protected in Havana.
PANAMA
19l2
Troops
Marines land during heated election.
HONDURAS
19l2
Troops
Marines protect U.S. economic interests.
NICARAGUA
1912-33
Troops, bombing
20-year occupation, fought guerrillas.
MEXICO
19l3
Naval
Americans evacuated during revolution.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
1914
Naval
Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo.
COLORADO
1914
Troops
Breaking of miners' strike by Army.
MEXICO
1914-18
Naval, troops
Series of interventions against
nationalists.
HAITI
1914-34
Troops, bombing
19-year occupation after revolts.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
1916-24
Troops
8-year Marine occupation.
CUBA
1917-33
Troops
Military occupation, economic protectorate.
WORLD WAR I
19l7-18
Naval, troops
Ships sunk, fought Germany
RUSSIA
1918-22
Naval, troops
Five landings to fight Bolsheviks.
PANAMA
1918-20
Troops
"Police duty" during unrest after elections.
YUGOSLAVIA
1919
Troops
Marines intervene for Italy against Serbs in Dalmatia.
HONDURAS
1919
Troops
Marines land during election campaign.
GUATEMALA
1920
Troops
2-week intervention against unionists.
WEST VIRGINIA
1920-21
Troops, bombing
Army intervenes against
mineworkers.
TURKEY
1922
Troops
Fought nationalists in Smyrna (Izmir).
CHINA
1922-27
Naval, troops
Deployment during nationalist revolt.
HONDURAS
1924-25
Troops
Landed twice during election strife.
PANAMA
1925
Troops
Marines suppress general strike.
CHINA
1927-34
Troops
Marines stationed throughout the country.
EL SALVADOR
1932
Naval
Warships sent during Faribundo Marti revolt.
WASHINGTON DC
1932
Troops
Army stops WWI vet bonus protest.
WORLD WAR II
1941-45
Naval,troops, bombing, nuclear
Fought Axis for 3
years; 1st nuclear war.
DETROIT
1943
Troops
Army puts down Black rebellion.
IRAN
1946
Nuclear threat
Soviet troops told to leave north (Iranian
Azerbaijan).
YUGOSLAVIA
1946
Naval
Response to shooting-down of U.S. plane.
URUGUAY
1947
Nuclear threat
Bombers deployed as show of strength.
GREECE
1947-49
Command operation
U.S. directs extreme-right in civil
war.
CHINA
1948-49
Troops
Marines evacuate Americans before Communist victory.
GERMANY
1948
Nuclear threat
Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift.
PHILIPPINES
1948-54
Command operation
CIA directs war against Huk
Rebellion.
PUERTO RICO
1950
Command operation
Independence rebellion crushed in
Ponce.
KOREA
1950-53
Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats
U.S.&
South Korea fight China & North Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in 1950, & vs. China in 1953. Still have bases.
IRAN
1953
Command operation
CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
VIETNAM
1954
Nuclear threat
Bombs offered to French to use against
siege.
GUATEMALA
1954
Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion after new gov't nationalizes U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
EGYPT
1956
Nuclear threat, troops
Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; MArines evacuate foreigners
LEBANON
1958
Troops, naval
Marine occupation against rebels.
IRAQ
1958
Nuclear threat
Iraq warned against invading Kuwait.
CHINA
1958
Nuclear threat
China told not to move on Taiwan isles.
PANAMA
1958
Troops
Flag protests erupt into confrontation.
VIETNAM
1960-75
Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; 1-2 million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in 1968 and 1969.
CUBA
1961
Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails.
GERMANY
1961
Nuclear threat Alert during Berlin Wall crisis.
CUBA
1962
Nuclear threat
Naval
Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with USSR.
LAOS
1962
Command operation
Military buildup during guerrilla war.
PANAMA
1964
Troops
Panamanians shot for urging canal's return.
INDONESIA
1965
Command operation Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
1965-66
Troops, bombing Marines land during election campaign.
GUATEMALA
1966-67
Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels.
DETROIT
1967
Troops
Army battles Blacks, 43 killed.
UNITED STATES
1968
Troops
After King is shot; over 21,000 soldiers in cities.
CAMBODIA
1969-75
Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos.
OMAN
1970
Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.
LAOS
1971-73
Command operation, bombing U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion; "carpet-bombs" countryside.
SOUTH DAKOTA
1973
Command operation Army directs Wounded Knee siege of Lakotas.
MIDEAST
1973
Nuclear threat World-wide alert during Mideast War.
CHILE
1973
Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president.
CAMBODIA
1975
Troops, bombing Gas captured ship, 28 die in copter crash.
ANGOLA
1976-92
Command operation CIA assists South African-backed rebels.
IRAN
1980
Troops, nuclear threat, aborted bombing Raid to rescue Embassy hostages; 8 troops die in copter-plane crash. Soviets warned not to get involved in revolution.
LIBYA
1981
Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down in maneuvers.
EL SALVADOR
1981-92
Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash.
NICARAGUA
1981-90
Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution.
LEBANON
1982-84
Naval, bombing, troops Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells Muslim and Syrian positions.
HONDURAS
1983-89
Troops
Maneuvers help build bases near borders.
GRENADA
1983-84
Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution.
IRAN
1984
Jets
Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf.
LIBYA
1986
Bombing, naval Air strikes to topple nationalist gov't.
BOLIVIA
1986
Troops Army assists raids on cocaine region.
IRAN
1987-88
Naval, bombing US intervenes on side of Iraq in war.
LIBYA
1989
Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down.
VIRGIN ISLANDS
1989
Troops
St. Croix Black unrest after storm.
PHILIPPINES
1989
Jets
Air cover provided for government against coup.
PANAMA
1989-90
Troops, bombing
Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed.
LIBERIA
1990
Troops
Foreigners evacuated during civil war.
SAUDI ARABIA
1990-91
Troops, jets Iraq countered after invading Kuwait; 540,000 troops also stationed in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel.
IRAQ
1990-?
Bombing, troops, naval Blockade of Iraqi and Jordanian ports, air strikes; 200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq and Kuwait; no-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shiite south, large-scale destruction of Iraqi military.
KUWAIT
1991
Naval, bombing, troops Kuwait royal family returned to throne.
LOS ANGELES
1992
Troops
Army, Marines deployed against anti-police uprising.
SOMALIA
1992-94
Troops, naval, bombing U.S.-led United Nations occupation during civil war; raids against one Mogadishu faction.
YUGOSLAVIA
1992-94
Naval
Nato blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.
BOSNIA
1993-95
Jets, bombing No-fly zone patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs.
HAITI
1994-96
Troops, naval
Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup.
CROATIA
1995
Bombing
Krajina Serb airfields attacked before Croatian offensive.
ZAIRE (CONGO)
1996-97
Troops
Marines at Rwandan Hutu refuge camps, in area where Congo revolution begins.
LIBERIA
1997
Troops
Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
ALBANIA
1997
Troops
Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
SUDAN
1998
Missiles
Attack on pharmaceutical plant alleged to be "terrorist" nerve gas plant.
AFGHANISTAN
1998
Missiles
Attack on former CIA training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups alleged to have attacked embassies.
IRAQ
1998-?
Bombing, Missiles
Four days of intensive air strikes after weapons inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions.
YUGOSLAVIA
1999-?
Bombing, Missiles
Heavy NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to withdraw from Kosovo.
YEMEN
2000
Naval
Suicide bomb attack on USS Cole.
MACEDONIA
2001
Troops
NATO troops shift and partially disarm Albanian rebels.
AFGHANISTAN
2001
Massive U.S. mobilization to attack Taliban, Bin Laden.
IRAQ
2003
Use of radiological warfare on civilians. Regime change.
IRAN, SYRIA and NORTH KOREA
2006
The threatened use of Nuclear weapons. Regime change.
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i wanted to be rich. Fat chance, I've absolutely no talent.
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Haha' date=' what the hell is New Zealand Story about? You basically just jump around as a kiwi, shoot things with your bow and rescue other birds and then a door magically appears.
The stage music is pretty cool though.[/quote']
Funny as fuck. Doo doo doo, doo doo doo, dee doo doo.....
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Ah, it was Mayhem's frontman Dead who committed suicide. His note simply read "Excuse all the blood". The ammunition was supplied by Varg Vikernes (Count Grishnak of Burzum).
His body was discovered by Aarseth who, instead of calling the police, ran to a nearby corner shop and bought a disposable camera which he used to photograph the corpse for a future Mayhem album cover (Dawn of the Black Hearts).
Apocryphal reports also claim that he then took some pieces of Dead's splattered brains and made a stew out of them and/or members of the band took bone fragments from their friend's skull and made necklaces out of them.
Later, Vikernes killed Aarseth in Aarseth's home, stabbing him 23 times, although Vikernes claims that Aarseth fell on broken glass while running from him and that he really stabbed him only 4 or 5 times.
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Talking of emulators. Amiga Forever is a fantastic emulator and most Megademos, games and public domain are available for free on the web.
Was playing PP Hammer and Another World the other day. Even classics like the New Zealand Story and Rick Dangerous still look cool.
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I think my loathing of them was exacerbated when my "friends" cottoned onto the fact that I really hated the front cover of "It" and started leaving the vhs of it lying around somewhere they knew I'd see it.
Buggers!
The clown on the front of the Acid Bath cover was painted by JW Gacy. I watched a documentary on him. He was seriously disturbed.
By the way, you gave me an ace idea for a thread. Cheers! (see Most Controversial Album Covers.) Your not just a pretty face.
I think Rachel is a nice name.
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My top ten would be
1] Brujeria - Matando Gueros
2] Iron Maiden - Women in Uniform 12" (featuring Maggie Thatcher being murdered)
3] Guns 'n' Roses - Appetite for Destruction
4] Metallica - Load
5] Acid Bath - When the Kite String Pops
6] Blind Faith - Blind Faith
7] Cannibal Corpse - Butchered at Birth
8] Chumbawamba - Anarchy
9] Paris - Sonic Jihad
10] Depression - Depression
What would yours be?
Remember not to post any covers which controvene the terms and conditions of this bulletin board.
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Dude... don't dig yourself a hole. Gary Glitter deserves to have his balls chopped off yes' date=' but you can't say that makes the UK more "dangerous".
He at least didn't dress up as a clown and then hide the bodies of his victims under his floorboards a la Gacy.
I've always had a fear of clowns...
Craig and Brian's Fudge Awards costumes did not help.[/color']
Yeah, I hate clowns. I do like Acid Bath though!
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My Grandad was half Italian and half Irish. I love Guiness, Pasta and Pizza.
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How come Bush managed to watch the first plane hit the towers on 11 September. The tape was never shown until 12 September. Unless he watched it on a secure link from the CIA. If so, someone must have known it was about to happen.
Knowing Bush would have been a target and that he was in a public place, shouldn't his security have taken him to safety?
I really think the administration knew and let 11 September happen. Otherwise, nothing makes sense.
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depends what you want. try the reviews in the latest PC Format mag, they are very imformative.
Buy from dabs.com
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not all american people wanted that' date=' no. but i'm sure some did. i'm sure some are loving it....
as for most dangerous country??? i'm sorry but which country spawned gary glitter? i mean i know we have MJ, but apparently he's innocent.[/quote']
That's very true.
Which country do you like most? America, Australia or Italy?
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at the very least' date=' though, bush is some sort of catalyst......[/quote']
When I see US planes and tanks being used to attack Palestinians, I can understand why people hate America.
America is hated, because it does not listen to the voice of the world, including its own people. I'm sure American people didn't want...
The invasion of Iraq
The invasion of Iran
The invasion of North Korea
The bombing of civilians in Afghanistan
The permanent detainees in Guantanamo Bay
The withdrawal from the Geneva Convention
Military tribunals suspending due process and habeas corpus
Assassination squads
The resurrection of COINTELPRO
The repeal of the Bill of Rights
The Revocation of the Constitution
National Identity cards
Big Brother
An Eye for an Eye
The blood of the innocent, who perished on 11 September, be avenged with the blood of innocent villagers in Afghanistan
The administration to wage war any time, anywhere, anyhow it pleases
War without end
A permanent war economy and climate of fear.
It is without doubt, the most dangerous country in the world.
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meh. i'm just being annoying because i'm pretty bored and can't go out cause i'm broke.. i am american' date=' but i am also italian and australian. i'm not exactly a huge fan of many things US-related, which explains why i live, work, and study here...
still, not all americans are loud and arrogant (i'm not saying i'm not..... i don't know if i am)... but i think we deserve a bit more credit. even though bush is still there...[/quote']
Of course you do. Most of my annoyances with the USA are because of it's corporatism and foreign policy. You are probably very nice.
Nevertheless, Bush is not the reason for the worlds hatred of America. It's America itself.
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come on' date=' it's a discussion...
by saying it is 'utter pish' that the UK is guilty of all the things you listed under your 'serious reasons' for disliking the US it was implied that the UK was blameless for everything. yes, you were being asked for your opinion on americans, but you haven't exactly limited yourself to that when you responded to GraemeC. [/quote']
No, it was implied that the UK is not guilty of the aforementioned offences, not that it was blameless. It went to war with Iraq!
Also... if you've only met 20-30 Americans' date=' isn't it a bit harsh to say you despise the majority of a country? What else do you have to go on?[/quote']Nothing, that's enough for me. How much do I need? I might like you if you agree with me!
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so that's right. is it?
DAMN!!
Yeah, well that was a type-o, not an intentional misspelling.
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let's see' date=' no, Echelon, you're completely right. the uk is so completely and utterly guiltless of all things narrow-minded and horrible.... like the right to detain people based solely on suspicion???[/quote']
I said that, did I? I was being asked for my opinion of Americans, not Britons.
Yes, Britain detains people without trial. It also conquered, raped and piliged its way across the globe, just as the USA is doing now. It is no where near guiltless. It's deportation of its own people from the island of Diego Garcia to make way for a United States Air Force base is another example of Britains will to cooperate with any US demands. Britains cooperation with the pre-facist regime of the USA is indeed very dangerous and always has been. Never more so.
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point taken. my bad' date=' i was rushing, my dinner was burning... it is fixed now. but in my defense, the other dude was wrong first...[/quote']
No, I wasn't
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You've never been in Alaska then' date=' or Chicago or Ny mid winter?
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No. I meant the Country as a whole. Jersey is warm too but that doesn't make Britain hotter does it?
so how many have you met approx.20-30. What difference does that make?
all media gleaned shite....No it's not. It is my opinion. But if you can't think of a better way to be dismissive' date=' fair enough!?
And the uk is guilty of all of the above.No it doesn't. Don't talk such utter pish.
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It is a beautiful country. It is much cleaner than the UK and much much warmer.
Unfortunately, most US Americans I have met are loud and obnoxious. I have yet to meet a nice American who doesn't think the USA is the best Country in the world. However, it would be ignorant of me to say this of all US Americans.
Silly things I hate about the USA are:
Its habit of calling Britain "England"
Its misspelling of words. dropping the letter U and substituting Z for the letter S
The way US American tourists call Canterbury Cathedral "Quaint"
Its habit of putting everything into BrandName form, like 9/11
Its kidnap and recolouring of Father Christmas from Green to Red and White to suit the Coca-Cola company advertising
Serious thing I hate about the USA are:
Its Governments propaganda campaign against its own people
Its threatening behaviour against nations across the globe
Its continued development of Nuclear Weapons against the Test Ban Treaty
Its unfettered support for the State of Israel
Its sickening exploitation of the 11 September attacks to promote its ambition towards "Full Spectrum Dominance" and preserve the Pax Americana
etc.
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I like the USA as a country. Most of it's people I despise.
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If smoking does all those bad things' date=' then how come I'm still a babe magnet?[/quote']
Aye! Me indah! I look well young for my age.
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You won if he place any pocketed-balls onto the table before the white went in. If he'd just taken them out the pocket, then he won... according to my rule book.
Cha.
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The original artwork on Appetite featured a girl with her pants around her ancles having just been raped.