rune

But destroying people's property is okay according to you. That's what I call *fool* of yourself.

Bob

You seem to have fallen into my trap, i only made that statement about your computer as you thought that internet hacking was a "joke". I didnt in any sense claim that this was a good or bad thing. I merely stated the facts on what could happen.......

i mentioned my djing in drakes bacause it has specific relevance to you implying that you know more about metal than the staff in one up. i mentioned it to highlight the fact that you're talking out of your weak puny ass. i mentioned it because we rule and you do not. i mentioned it because you keep banging on and on and on and on and on and making no fucking sense whatsoever despite me pointing out repeatedly that we play exactly the type of music you say we don't play. i mentioned it because the clubnight me and rory(also from one up) run in drakes is the clubnight of your pubescent wet dreams and you've probably never been there yet you still accuse us of not knowing about underground metal bands. i mentioned all this in a last ditch vain attempt to stop you making an absolute complete tit of yourself. i failed.

and for the last fucking time' date=' shops do not run request services and never will. the only thing i have ever ever played for someone in a shop cause they asked me to was slayer's angel of death to a group of drunk guys who begged me for 30 minutes and then had a moshpit in front of the counter. it was worth it. i'd expect a similar level of commitment to every request made and it's not going to happen. also i don't really want a moshpit in front of my counter every single day and neither would the boss. don't reply to this statement, it is an unchangeable fact. nothing you can say will ever change this and everything you would say is WRONG. accept these teachings my child and you will be at peace.

also might i add the level of english in this thread is shockingly bad. it's almost as painful as reading txtspk.[/quote']

Where did i imply that i knew more, if you check back i didnt....

You rule and i dont omg where do you get off with youre self righteos opinion your ego must be so big! Suprised your head doesnt explode

Also i didnt state that you knew nothing about underground metal bands omg you have really lost the plot! This is so funny hahaaaaa

Another thing, this thread isnt about dj's and clubs its about the "aberdeen music shop scene" I really didnt know drakes was a shop where you could buy cds from you'de really have to tell me where this section is! No please tell me i really want to see it

Havent had this much fun in a long time youre post is so flawed haaaaaaaa

Me make a tit of myself you did it well enought yourself

what in the bluest of blue hells does this have to do with your one man crusade against 'rubbish' music in record shops?

Its all about it infact. Dont you think that the real problem lies within smaller un-noticed bands that have talent but yet get no mention or aren't know?

There are so many bands out there that arent promoted correctly

Typical. 12 pages of the truth hurting.

Bravo to Stripey for bringing that hurtful painful truth to so many pretenders' date=' wannabes and never gonna-happens in this tragic little fishing village music scene thats always so drastically disappearing up its own fundament.

Its like this - there's a distinct lack of quality in a lot of the music here, which is what Stripey was getting at before some of you fucking douchebags starting swinging your handbags and stamping your stilettos about.

There's so many bands here content to jumping on the bandwagons the likes of NME and Kerrang start up so they don't have to work hard to getting people to come to their gigs and like their music but the problem with this is that too many bands are looking at the fashionable bands that are the "in thing" at the moment and trying to replicate their style and with that, you get a clutch of bands who are playing similar types of music and thus musical saturation brings musical stagnation in such a scene as this, people start to get tired with hearing the same or similar type of shit all the time and thus don't go to gigs so much because they know what to expect from these bands

I think what Stripey was getting at was that bands here aren't giving people many reasons to be excited about what they do because they're just copying off other bands that are around and i agree with him that what a lot of bands are doing couldn't be classed as an "artform" because art is creating something thats unique and original, something that stands out on its own merit, and i can't think of many bands apart from a mere few here who do that.

In saying that, i understand that a lot of bands just like getting up onstage and doing their thing and merely make music because they enjoy it and aren't interested in being innovative or artistic, thats fair enough, however i think there's too many cases of people on here starting up bands just so they can be part of the scene and be local celebs and not giving a shit about how shit their music sounds onstage.

Its too easy for bands to get gigs now regardless of how awful their music can potentially be and thus the overall quality in music has dwindled a lot over the years although for a band starting out, its understandable that doing a gig is a learning experience for them but i think a lot of bands need to go develop their own sound a lot before taking their music to a live audience, its just too bad too many people starting up bands think that need to play a gig as quickly as possible and think that by merely saying they're an emo band or a band that plays punk or metal that should in itself be enough for people to come see them.

I have got no problems with musicians using other bands as a template with which to develop their very own unique sound around but i think experimentation is lost on too many people, i think most kids just want to ape their heroes or favourite posterbands they see in the likes of Kerrang or Metal Hammer and they're not interested in testing the extremes of a musical instrument to its utmost limits.

Hell, i ain't gonna tell someone what they can and can't do with their own musical equipment but it seems really boring just trying to copy someone else's ideas and try to pass them off as your own ideas and then take them to a gig to impress your mates that you can play a couple of guitar chords that some guy from Blink 182 plays in one of their songs.

Also, the way technology is going, there's absolutely no reason for music to remain in such a stagnant state now, music can be taken to new limits now and it just seems sad that too many people are happy to just let their musical talents go to waste by using it to produce drivelish shite that has already been copied over and over.

A lot of music that is being made in this place sounds corny, its like the same fucking riffs and same song structures are being created over and over again in order to give themselves a quick fix solution to making music, its like no-one's willing to take the time and effort to create something thats their own brainchild, i think thats what so wrong with music here, it seems that image and style reigns over content and talent from what i can see and hear.

I think maybe the tact Stripey takes sometimes with regard to Aberdonians being a bunch of stupid fucking douchebags is harsh at times but i think i can relate to the frustration he feels with regard to the quality levels of music being created by people in this "scene" as well as their dubious reasons for being in a band is another thing that comes into question.

Besides, i don't think Stripey is the reason some of you are getting so upset, i think some of you are just upset cos your fucking egos took a bit of a kicking...dry your eyes out and untwist your knickers....

Try shutting the motherfucker up by proving him that his words are wrong, if you feel that strongly and passionately about being wronged by what he said....

If not, shut the fuck up and quit whining like a bunch of bitches for christ's sake...its only one guy's opinion after all[/quote']

Some one give this guy a medal, right to the spot. Very few bands these days have real creativity and talent

My hero! That's the computer geek equivalent of a ned saying "Aye min' date=' if i seez u in toon im gonna knock yer face off!"

You've really gone up in my estimations now.

Bob[/quote']

You think youre so righteous dont you? I can tell youre so full of yourself, violence solves nothing. Anyone with a brain would know that.......

Have you got a firewall' date=' network intrusion system or antivirus software?........[/quote']

Never mind user he will learn the hard way, perhaps he would change his mind if someone sent him a worm virus that corrupted all his exe files or maybe if someone hacked his bios and set a worm into his boot sector

i dont understand how we would get media attention from having our album playing over the pa at one-up tho' date=' as i assume thats what your talking about? yes ok it does work sometimes, but only for attracting buyers, i refer to the one time i put the Black Atom CD on in burger king and some mother came up and asked who it was because her son really liked it, but it's a bit of a one off chance thing, the mother could quite as easily been coming to complain about the racket.

If you want media attention up here you'd be better off doing it yourself, the local press dont really give a rats ass, which leads to the whole getting out of aberdeen thing, coz as much as playing and being a band here is a great laugh, if your trying to make progress bandwise, your better getting your music out of here and spread across the country.

Having your music over the pa in One Up is really little more than a novelty, and is not going to get you press coverage.[/quote']

Coverage via the media as a whole ie magazines, websites, tv

It seems really petty that when someone goes against the grain and upsets the bandwagon you get all these people attacking, atleast user is being honest and expressing himself. Something which on this forum you get no credit for, its easy to follow the crowd and well its even harder to be your own identity.

Its life that the minority get laughed at and tried to get belittled, personally i dont give a shit what anyone else thinks about my opinion or interests, i do it for myself and wont ever try to become something im not. It would be untrue to myself and i think morally wrong.

If these forums are such a joke bob then why participate in them?

Havent you got anything better to do?

What the crap does that mean? Do you mean "there" at the end? And "wasn't" in the middle? If so' date=' then I suspect they'd play to the same small crowds that touring bands get here. Like several band members have already said occurs. Whoop-di-do....[/quote']

The point i was trying to make if you didnt realise was that outside of aberdeen these local bands would get the same treatment as the bands that come here.

Ok' date=' so basically this whole thread is a waste of time...

You know why most places dont play that kind of music, and you know that one-up has been known to, you've just not been there, you don't like it, but i don't like getting out of bed in the morning or the fact that millions of people across the world die every day of starvation and illness, but it happens. If you hadn't just ignored every single valid point in this thread, this would of been resolved after 2 pages. Case Closed.[/quote']

Well ok but you know that being in a small band with little or no coverage is very hard.

Wouldnt you feel greatfull if youre music was played and got media attention thus giving even more fans?

Well' date=' if you had half a brain, it would be telling you that I personally, do not have an intrest in the bands you listed, nothing more, just i don't like them... although on a previous page i APPARENTLY was telling you what to like and what not to like... i'm not you, im not trying to force me favourite bands upon you...

When did it suddenly become so important what music they play in shops, do you throw your toys out the pram when you go into McDonalds and they're not playing Pig Destroyer? no, because music in all shops is just there to give any shop a slightly more lively vibrant attitude for the 20 mins max that your in there, not as a personal Jukebox for you, ever heard of headphones?[/quote']

As i stated before ive not walked out of any shop just because they play shit......

No. Just actually READ OTHER PEOPLES POSTS WHO ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT!

And shut up. I asked you twice.

You didnt say pls

Bravo. Argued yourself full circle. Most impressive......

Still doesnt make it right tho that alot of metal artists dont get mentioned Purely dont to the fact that their sound is harsher and more aggresive than others

Shut. Up. Now.

You say: No metal is played in shops.

OneUp says: We play Mistress' date=' Cathedral, Hammer of Thor, and anything else we fancy.

You Ignore this and continue to blither away, hugely irritating everyone here.

Shut. Up. Now.[/quote']

Oh sorry for speaking from my own experiences, i will ask you next time before i post ok?

Why worry what they're playing in Aberdeen stores anyways? At the very most I spend twenty [at the VERY most] minutes in One Up or FOPP and ten at the most in HMV or Virgin. Why would I really care what's playing? I've a perfectly good stereo at home and enough XxXtreme CDs that those fascist bastards would never play sitting at home anyways! I go home and listen to those CDs when the sun sets with my pigs. In the dark.

YEahhhh my neighbours get a full on blast

But please dont you think that theres alot of great metal bands out there that get no recognition?

I try to give people ideas on what i like, most of the time im met with the responce "never heard of them"

So you lied then?

They hadn't "refused" to play all your "controversial metal" songs it all.

You just hadn't bothered to ask.

Seems a little silly making a thread and a big deal about a fact which you haven't even investigated?

Tut tut.

I know even before asking that these songs wouldnt get played, they are for too extreme.

Maybe they hadnt refused to play them but i really honestly do think that they wouldnt be considered appropriate for playing in a shop

I honestly couldnt say i care for the bands you've listed either

So what does that tell me? Youre opinion clearly states that you dont like the bands i listed

Oh My God shut the fuck up! i cant believe i just spent about 20 mins looking at you talking complete shite and everyone else on this forums telling you that you are a moron and you are still going! fuck if i went into one up and said to Dave "i want to listen to emperor now!" id damn well hope he would kick my ass out of the shop...do everyone a favour and stick to your internet shopping!

So please tell me how my points arent valid?

Its fact that grindcore,thrash dont get little mention. Yet the bands continue on trying to make a life out of it with little or no success.

You think this is right?

or maybe the types of band you like shun the media?

but i mean i can see why HMV Virgin or even the independents choose NOT to play any extreme of a genre because the majority of their custom would be coming from the average music fan' date='or the kids buying that weeks singles, so it would pretty much alienate their customers by having for example Spazz or PIg Destroyer playing on the P.A

thats where dr dre etc. have got the smarts, with the invention of the "radio edit"[/quote']

Possibly they do shun the media not sure on that one.......

Maybe it would alienate their customers but hey dont you really think that even if one person liked it, wouldnt you consider this to be a small success in the underground scene?

I wonder how much crowds these aberdeen bands would actually get if they toured to places where their local support werent their........

Im afraid you really dont know your arse from your elbow pal. I have seen some amazing performances in aberdeen lately from original bands such as "my minds wepon" and "contra" neither of which you would say are "tribute bands".

Get a grip man.

There isnt anything new in their sound tho........

man i've had enough of this shit. i've played pig destroyer many many times at valhella and have some cephalic carnage. i also own a couple of agoraphobic nosebleed records too. if you're so fucking metal why don't i see you at valhella every week supporting the heaviest night in aberdeen and supporting underground metal? i also fail to see anything controversial about the bands you've listed.

I fail to see what you dj'ing at drakes has to do with record shops. So song titles like Agoraphobic Nosebleed - Children Blown To Bits By The Busload' date=' Pig Destroyer - Tickets to the car crash arent controversial?

anyway aren't you being a bit fascist by dismissing the likes of slipknot and korn? sounds like musical fascism to me and is that the faint smell of hypocrisy in the air????? plus i got into better metal bands through the likes of korn, slipknot and limp bizkit so why can't someone else? i see these bands as a means to an end not an end. the kids who like slipkont today may like pig destroyer tomorrow.

Ive listened to these bands and ive even purchased to my misfortune a korn cd. I also have the first 2 slipknot cds and the live dvd but now i think both are shit.

i don't dismiss any music without hearing it, but i will NOT be told how to do my job by a faceless name on a messageboard who has no logical point and can only complain because he hasn't heard any bands he likes in a shop. do you want us to play every single fucking cd in the shop in the hope someone likes it? you try standing behind a counter for 8 hours a day surrounded by cd's and listening to music you don't like all fucking day. i quit hmv for a reason years ago.

I get people at my work all day preaching to me bands i hate, thats life. Everyone at my work thinks metal is shit. I dont care. If you cant play the certain cds that your shop takes in why sell? Dont you think that these bands are mostly unknown to people? Hey ive worked in the retail industry i know what its like. I just rise above all that bullshit ans say so what why should shit like that bother me.

we play what we want to hear not cause we dismiss other music but because we want to hear it, it's our fucking shop and our fucking perogative. i don't expect to have to explain this again.

Thats a slightly shovanistic view to have, thats like me saying to one of my pals hey fuck you i aint puttin that shit on my stereo. I wouldnt do that youve goto be diplomatic

I'm glad you said that' date=' save me the bother. tho im not sure if i should be offended by the 'kids who like slipknot' statement

Rune, you've achieved little else but coming across as a metal elitist... i FUCKING hate metal elitists, it just makes people who dont know anything about the genre think every metalhead is totally up themselves claiming metal as the 'real' genre whilst trying to cram 'Real Metal' down everyone elses throat. I honestly couldnt say i care for the bands you've listed either, though i consider myself a Metalhead, shit i must be faking it, my secret is out....

Anyway... it's funny, i go into shops to buy stuff... not listen to the music... what a freak i am....[/quote']

Yeah so do i go into shops and buy cds, what a coinsidence. Then i got real sick of waisting my money on shit and decided to check them out on the internet after.

I dont need your opinion to tell me what i like and dont like thank you very much

So you dont think nu-metal is a fad? I do

The real irony is' date=' if a band like Converge became massively successful, Rune seems like the kinda gut who would immediatley scream 'sell out'.[/quote']

I would say sell out when a band changes its style to become more accepted.

If a band doesnt change and does what it believes in and then becomes popular i would say yeah thats cool good for them. so youre totally wrong

Seen as people are talking about shops "doing it for the mainstream" with bands that are accepted, hell why dont we just scrap all the alternate scene as its not a real money maker and just sell the top 40, so all we can listen to is manufactured crap?