HummerOfIntenseEvil

Argh!! Damn you for putting that there!

Alan is a genuinely sound guy. I met him a year ago when we were on Northsound 2 for a interview. He was a sound engineer

A sound sound engineer? Griff would love that

Pizza Hut.

Just found out that the couple took to the dance floor for their first song as man and wife: a pre-recorded duet of "a whole new world" sung by ... Peter and Jordan. God that's tacky.

And you just KNOW it's going to be released as a single.

armed only with one liners

"come on pluto i'v only got one arm you can beat me"

"Every dog has it's day Pluto, except you"

"Come on Mickey, are you a man or a mouse?"

"Can I have a ride in your Minnie?"

etc

Peter Andre is TRYING to look like Mike Patton circa Album Of The Year era, but failing miserably.

The other one is trying to pretend she's an angelic princess, but we all know she's a filthy slut really.

Girl Said No seem to be getting a bit up their own arse' date=' they are slagging off some of the other bands at Free at the Dee on their website. Not very professional.[/quote']

"Getting"? Haha!! They've been up there own arses for fucking ages! And it wouldn't be so bad, except that I've unfortunately seen them three times (once as Long Firm and again as The Longfirm) and each time they actually got progressively WORSE!

A mate of mine somehow got added to their mailing list about a year ago, and he sent me a couple of their newsletters... absolutely (unintentionally) hilarious! I remember one saying they came something like 5th out of 6 in a Glasgow "battle of the bands" some time last year, and they tried to make that sound like a fucking achievement! And the WAY they did it... priceless. Just priceless.

I can't believe I've deleted it, it was brilliant

Seriously, sign up for their mailing list, much laughter to be had. I'm away to do it just now in fact.

I'm obviously a bit thick because I can't come up with any reason why bands aren't giving me any information. (except for the two who did' date=' thanks guys).

Can anyone enlighten me?[/quote']

Well I only found out about this now, so unless Stroszek are one of the two bands you refer to, I would say obliviousness would be the reason for us at least, and you'll no doubt have at least a third band on your list by the end of the week.

Perhaps other bands are the same? Maybe a mod could sticky the thread?

I'd rather get paid nothing than 5 I think. Although we just shove all our money into a band kitty anyway to pay for various band thingies.

It would be "nice" to get paid at least enough to cover any travelling costs you had, but in saying that you should find out how much you're getting paid before you even agree to the gig, and if it's nothing and you're not happy with that, then don't fucking do the gig!

As for local gigs, well I was pleasantly surprised when the guy in Tunnells handed me 50 for our gig last month. Money was the last thing on our minds I think, it was purely a bonus. I'd like to think any other local bands that at the very least say they're in it for "the music maaaan" would feel the same.

I don't think a band really has the right to demand payment until they're at the stage where people will come from outside their home town to see them, ie their fanbase is more than family & friends & aquaintences. Otherwise payment should just be a pleasant upshot of managing to fill the place.

Saying that Herr Cloud, if you ever get us a gig and hand us 5 at the end of the night, I'll get Gary (yes THAT one) to give you a smack

"The Next Manics" Metro Scotland

Interesting... with that in mind, if we speak to them at all, I'll no doubt ask them what their favourite Manics album is, and look down on them if the answer is "Everything Must Go" rather than "The Holy Bible".

About a year ago I used to download stuff illegally, but it was only ever songs that were unavailable on CD (ie long lost b-sides and live bootlegs) or one or two songs by an artist I'd just heard of. In the second case, if I liked what I heard, I'd go down to One Up and buy the album. Because of this, I was buying between 8-10 albums at a time at one point. But then my computer fucked up and I couldn;t be arsed reinstalling Soulseek (it was fucking up my computer in the first place), and ever since I've found it hard to come across new music, and that's not because it's any less sexy.

I've only recently started buying lots of albums again in fact, and that's just cos I've suddenly got cash to spend with nothing else to spend it on, so I just buy albums off Play, almost just for the sake of it.

I would NEVER pay to download a track though (except the song Leviathan that the Manics are doing for the new War Child album maybe, cos I don't want to end up with a CD full of other pish) and I think if bands made past b-sides available on their websites, as well as tasters from their albums, the need for commercial AND illegal downloading would diminish significantly.

Except among the cheapskate thieving bastards that is.

I can see what Gridlock's on about to a certain extent, but it's unfair to assume everyone who watches Neighbours, A-Team etc only watches them cos they think it makes them look "zany" or whatever. Just cos these programmes are light-hearted doesn't make them shite.

I personally always loved seeing B.A. make a tank out of a frying pan or whatever. And Neighbours is the one programme I've always watched... I can't even remember a time when I didn't watch it. It's a damn sight better than any of our counterparts.

And the only detective programme more entertaining than Diagnosis Murder is Poirot.

Ha! That has to be done, if only to see Jake dressed up as a tart and Cloud being a spiv!

Oh look at ME...I'm England...im having a bank HOLIDAY

Do Englishers seriously think there's better things to do with a day off than sit at home watching Neighbours?

any1 goin to the edinburgh gig?

I am....

Fine' date=' but can you dance to them?

(actually, I know the answer to that as I was down on the discofloor when their tune was played in Exodus. Just making a point, is all)[/quote']

Well I was dancing.

Trevor & Simon's Swing Your Pants dance apparently.

It's thursday!

That's a fantastic write up by the way

Anyone wanting to see me possibly suffer from stage fright on my live debut would be advised to come to Tunnels on the Friday.

Do they sound at all like Jane's Addiciton, or is it just a complete coincidence that they're named after a Jane's classic?

1. The Holy Bible - Manic Street Preachers

2. My CD Player

3. A really big bag of batteries.

philospohy degrees are VERY popular with graduate employers in management consultants at the moment because they're one of a small number of degrees that teach you how to think objectively.

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I'm not surprised. I did three weeks of a Politics, Society and Philosophy course at uni, and it was possibly the most rewarding of all the courses I've done.

However, they wanted you to write 2 pages of stuff every week. That was too much effort for a course I was just doing for credits, which is why I switched to French & German Politics for the remainder of the semester.

But still, I'd say most of the folk in that class were typical "fookin stuuudents" types.

Hummer' date=' your idea could lead to a lot of problems. Some people actually want to do the "arty farty" courses because it is for them. For people who do these courses to suffer is pretty unfair.

I suppose I did an arty course "photography HND" but it pays my bills etc. Not everyone who does these courses end up with nothing at the end of it.[/quote']

Aye, that's why it'd be hard to implement. That's why I'd first of all invent a time machine that lets you go into the future to find out if that person ever actually used their degree for a job, and then make them pay for it if they didn't.

Or we could just charge Royal Family members a billion pounds for tuition fees?

Check the evening express on a wednesday' date=' or P&J on a friday with its 1000s of jobs, and count the amount of graduate jobs that pay over 20k on one hand....if any![/quote']

An even more fun game is "Spot the job vacancy that doesn't require you to have a few years experience already".

why should it be fucking free anyway? are you living in the fucking 50s? degrees don't necessarily = good jobs

Education should be a right, not a privilage.

Saying that, I also side with Sharon in the "why should other people pay for you to do mickey Mouse degrees?" viewpoint. Personally, I would have useful degrees subsidised, but if you want to do Philosophy you can pay for it yourself. But I daresay that'd be rather hard to actually implement - what if you want to be a philosophy lecturer? That could be counted as useful then.

That doesn't mean I have anything against BA degrees - they're a damn sight more interesting and fulfilling than BEng or Bsc degrees are.

I think it's a little wide of the mark to say the "only" people who have heard of Primo Levi are Manic Street Preachers fans! I know plently of people who have read his work and know nothing about The Holy Bible or MSP. I personally think that Holy Bible is very important album as it exposed those that listen to it other important areas of art. It's musical good too' date=' but does have the odd hoorible GN'R solo shoe-horned in. "Faster" reminds me of The Clash, Wire and PIL and then this horrible Slash solo bursts in from nowhere![/quote']

I wasn't being entirely serious

But yeah, that's exactly why i think The Holy Bible (and the Manics as a whole to be honest) is such an important album.

Of course, being a fan of Guns N' Roses as well as The Clash and post-punk, the music appeals to me 100%

However do you mean??

I believe Cloud's referring to the fact that you not only quote Jack Kerouac twice in your signature bitty, but you also list Kerouac, Burroughs and (this is the big give away) Primo "the only people who have ever heard of me are those who have read Song For Those Who Died In Vain on the back of Gold Against The Soul" Levi in your reading bitty. Plus that level of vitriol usually indicates "lost sheep" if you will

Anyway, the result - I couldn't believe my ears hearing "Manic Street Preachers' The Holy Bible" on Newsnight. But surprise surprise, Paul Morley had to put the boot in. Is he ever anything other than a complete twat? There's a guy that embodies the very nature of music journalism and why it's so shit. And the female reviewer clearly didn't have a clue. So it's bleak... everyone knows the greatest pieces of art are always bleak.