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im sure he doesnt mean to say chain them to a wall. They can do what they want. But a kiss is an intimate act' date=' i dont go around snogging my mates. There are certain things, when in a relationship, should only be donw with your partner, and kissing (And we're not talking just simple close mouthed on the lips or a peck on the cheek) is one such thing.[/quote']

I'm not saying it is acceptable but it is not the automatic death siren of a relationship.

I think my sister can safely back up the fact that I just had what many people call.. a fit.

Oh my fucking god. If ANYTHING happens to this gig' date=' I'll... I'll... aaargh!

ACE.[/quote']

I wouldn't build it up too much, they are pretty mundane live. On the upside I'll get the chance to propose to another of my wannabrides, though so its almost worth it.

I think that's utter shite. Getting upset because your partner is out without you and turning to other people for a kiss or snog is petty? No.

You're right, chain them to the wall, they're not to venture out on their own. I'm sorry if I don't think a kiss is an automatic kill in a relationship, though if it was recurring thing then thats different.

I have a deerhoof cd a friend sent me from Tokyo. It's amazing! It's not Milkman though.

is it green cosmos?

apple - o is the best.

panda panda panda

black foilage is awesome.

California demise pt 3 is the greatest pop song ever created.

word up to architecture in helisinki too.

One word makes me illiterate now does it...

Wow' date=' I'd love to live in your world...where everything down to the last Nanogram is perfectly synched and every word on every page is correct, where the people don't run, but walk, where skies above us are never gray. And where you are king and Queen of this mystical yet divine kingdom.

I write book's, poetry, and I even Tag....Am I a well known author who rakes in million's because of a seedy fan base?...No, unfortunately not, because people like you don't see the bigger picture, they huddle together like lost sheep reading the same books and wearing the same crown....Point being, don't be quick to judge me over one itsy bitsy mistake, I know education, I know good book's, and I know that life is easier with closed eyes.

Don't look now!![/quote']

Light entertainment. Wanking does not forward the world but its fun.

booze is an excuse' date=' because as we all know, booze just gives you the courage to do what you are really thinking..

so, if you snog / shag someone pissed, it's because you want to, not because the booze is making you do it.[/quote']

Not in my experiance. The only time I have cheated on someone I got very drunk during a particularly mundane night out. I literally turned round and some girl who had been dancing beside me starting kissing me. The exact thoughts that went through my head were "someone is kissing me, my girlfriend kisses me, this must be my girlfriend" A few minutes later I realise what i'm doing and stumble towards the exit completely disgusted with myself. I am not claiming innocence here, but I certainly didn't want to do anything.

David cross reprezzzzent!

To the person who said getting wrecked beyond memory is an excuse WRONG. It's your own fault for getting yourself into a state where it endangers your relationship. For the lack of forward thinking and immaturity I'd say it was even more unforgivable.

But to answer the question in general

If I'd just started seeing someone and we weren't that close' date=' I could possibly forgive them kissing someone else (but no further than this) in which case I'd watch them like the hawk and put a temporary ban of contact with said female (I'd probably also give her verbal grief and possibly a few threats - I'm being honest here).

In my current relationship, after all we've been through no, I wouldn't forgive him regardless of what he did. I'd stop talking to him and probably release a lot of built up anger on who ever the girl was.

Even just the thought of my bf kissing someone else makes me feel sick.

It's not something I'd expect from him though, it's not in his nature to behave like that.[/quote']

Harsh. You don't think there can be any circumstances where factors outwith your relationship can fuel said drinking and result in something completely out of your control?

I think its more to do with pride. Drunken kisses happen, if you are so petty that you hold this against the person you "love" then maybe you don't like them as much as you think. Fair enough on boning or what not though.

I'm not some hedonistic love demon.

i would bury the filthy slut in a local pit of desecration' date=' his body broken into a hundred pieces[/quote']

I hope you look like your avatar, that way imagining you breaking some poor cretin's body into a hundred pieces would be so much more entertaining.

i think if you drank that much you could probably be safe in the knowledge that nothing happened other than falling unconsious.

I wish. , ,

I think she might have been talking about "getting intimate"...far worse than sex...remember' date=' girls think differently to guys....

remember the jam sketch?

"I'm leaving you! you had sex with the girl who came to our party!"

"oh, ha ha, no no no, you misunderstand, I just raped her, she didn't want it".

"oh, ahhh, that's alright then, sorry, do you forgive me for jumping to that conclusion ?"...

(something like that anyway!)[/quote']

I love the camera effects on that sketch.

I could never forgive' date=' and its strange because I could certainly understand how easy it is to succumb to it.

The thing about cheating is, alcohol is not ever an excuse. People who claim it is are simply hiding behind a crap excuse and not taking responsibility. Drunk or sober you know what you're doing would break your partner's heart. if you're sober enough to have sex you are sober enough to remember you are attached.

The other thing is that cheating rarely has "nothing to do with the person you're cheating on". Its usually the fact that you are doing something illicit that gives cheating the spice.

What's more telling your partner to nsalve your own conscience is bloody selfish, people don't need to know things like that.

I wouldn't ever have someone back who cheated on me because I've got too much self-respect and I'd be eaten up with jealousy, and yet I'm hardly a saint myself. That isn't hypocrisy, simply that I know that jealousy would eat me up.

Of course if she cheated on me with another girl it would be different.[/quote']

I think anyone who has woken up in a strangers house and whose last memory was ordering 2 bottles of wine and 2 shot glasses, will testify that you are being incredibily naive.

I was going to agree until you said evil.

world war 2 is more interesting.

That was heavily implied in the book. A bit too obvious for Rowling I think. Also the idea that Voldermort intended to make Harry a horcrux is pretty stupid when you think about what Voldermort is trying to do to the boy. I'm secretly hoping that Voldermort wins and the ending of the book is filled with bloodlust and dangling people upside down by their toes.

i used to play ultima online thats the only online rpg thing i've ever played. All I did was buy and sell houses though, I was so feeble but I was rich as hell. I used to pay people to off folk for me, it was great.

I don't really have the budget or the time to play anymore, I don't really play anything other than Rome total war and pirates.

first day of term usually

that sprite advert has a brothomstates track on it.

didn't CBGB's in new york die a few months ago?

I'm more than a little displeased that I never knew about this night, strawberry daquiris and les savy fav, could you get any more gay? Incidently the answer is yes.

The Books - Thought For Food

and

The Books - The Lemon Of Pink

...had to order them from America' date=' but damn it's gonna be worth it (haven't arrived yet).

Anyone else like the Books? Anyone else heard of them? [/quote']

both albums are good, the lemon of pink in particulalry, lost and safe is in 1up if you haven't already got that.

I think this thread should burn.

falco - rock me amadeus

smog - rock bottom riser

the scorpions - rock me like a hurricane

I sense conspiracy. My first mogwai hoodie fell out of my bag while i was sprinting down windmill brae to catch a bus. I later discovered it had been found by a tramp and who had added to the already worn look by adding serveral charming bloodstains down the front.

While friday did not end badly, (a fine kebab, and a healthy dose of humus) Saturday started embarrassingly. A woman came to my door clutching my keys in her hands.

"hum" I said

"hello there, er I'm Greg's mum, from next door? Greg said he saw you outside your house this morning. He said you didn't have your keys. Well round about 3 I heard someone trying to get into my door. The postman handed me these keys just now, said he found them outside my door, I was just wondering..."

"oh dear"

"yes"

"I.I...er...thank you"

"it's ok, you know the colours are almost the same, and it was probably dark..."

"yeah"

"but anyway no harm done, bye"

"hmm"

It struck me then, that I had no idea how, without my keys, I managed to get in at all. I took my ponderances to my mother who, with a look acid death, muttered something dire and stalked from the room.

I got my contacts out fine though.

Is there a limit on how long a national anthem can be?

I foresee a ten minute, morale debilitating offensive weapon fueling Scotlands national sporting comeback.

Also the prospect of drunken louts shouting DA DA DA, has me shivering with excitement.