Jimmygoodein

So why cant we call that competative dancing?

e.g

Why dont we call it competative tennis?

1. Skill that is attained by study, practice, or observation: the art of the baker; the blacksmith's art.

Playing football is a skill obtained from alot of practise, study and observation. Footballers which have studied their skill to a great extent get paid alot for it.

Acting is a skill obtained from alot of practise, study and observation. Maybe the actors in Eastenders are not the greatest of actors but I would still consider them art. Also as you stated, Art is a form of entertainment, we are entertained by the art of the actors in Eastenders.

1. A system of principles and methods employed in the performance of a set of activities: the art of building.

footballers employ certain methods to perform their sport - or art. Which in turn entertains us. If footballers are practising their methods on the pitch, surely they are creating art?

Are you on drugs?

So England are going to the World Cup' date=' not to try and win it, but because they had a vision and inspiration, and they want to just be there for the experience and the artistic merit. My arse, all the teams are going there to do their best and to try and win the fucking thing. There are blurred lines; Ronaldinho, Henry etc in Nike ads showing off could be considered artistic, but as I say the aren't doing that to win. They play football matches to win, not to exhibit, edify, entertain, or fulfill their sensitive artistic and creative souls.[/quote']

Why then would you watch football if not to be entertained?

Im not sure what you mean by England playing a match "not to exhibit." Dosnt football get more exhibition than most things? Is football not exhibited to you all day, everyday, everywhere. On Tv, radio, internet and on the pitch itself.

Is the point of sport to win? I dunno. surely there must be creative expression through sport. Someone has had a vision/inspiration, to become a great runner for example. Then theyll put years of practise into becoming good at running, this is their craft I guess. Is the main goal after all those years to win?

Like a piano player, has the metal vision/inspiration to play. and takes all those years out to practise, to craft. To reach what, to win??

thanks for the comments guys. It was great to hear some constructive feedback

heres a thought:

Competition is prominant in art (Music, painting, writing, cooking whatever). But if you think of art as a competition why not become a runner?

This got me thinking. Where is the difference between sport and art. Or is sport art? Or is art Sport?

Its not the health issue that bothers me..... I think most non smokers dont care for the awful stench of fags

I second that. It feels great to get home from playing a gig not reeking of fags

do jesse james still have a horn section?

"gather round...not you nanbread"

i love it

wey thanks guys.

Scott, my other band played with you a couple of times at gig in the grounds and stuff. em ex, ring any bells?

www.myspace.com/steelyglint

hey im hoping for some feedback

cheers

bump

come one come all

EM EX

Bloodlust

Infinity

rude awakening

Friday 23rd December

Chapel of garioch village hall

price: free

doors: 7pm

having a few bands play to celebrate christmas, and in the festive spirit its FREE. So come along for a nice evening on a hill near inverurie, listening to a varied selction of music.

Raven is a godlike show.

You now have enough gold rings to exchange for a life.

I especially like it when he swivels his head a bit when he says Begin (let the challenge...begin)

blair teaches in my school. WEY!

hey, my band have a gig on the 26th of November but we could really use a lead singer (m or f, dosnt matter).

we will be playing covers mainly, stuff by Dream Theater, Rush, marillion and Opeth + others.

yea, i guess its alot to ask but if any one is interested please PM me.

haha, great great

Progressive as in prog-rock or a progression for them as a band?

well, the whole element of prog-rock is progression and doing something different. You couldnt really call a band prog-rock if they didnt progress in some way, whether that is music progression in general or progression of the band. A band should not be tagged prog rock just cause they sound like Genisis or whatever, Genesis were a prog band because the bands music Progressed and they changed the music scene of the time, to me it sounds like SOAD are progressing in many ways, just listen to sugar for a start and then listen to hypnotize, I believe there is quite a progression there. So i guess there answer to your question is yes, and yes.

wey

what are peoples views on hypnotize?

i think its a hell of an improvement from their last effort, lot more progressive

that clip wins

is it a good thrash though?

have you heard it?

aye monkey island has great music, and Age of empires 2!

does anyone know on average how long Vai's set will be in Glasgow on Friday?

it was a really good evening.

Mike and Sam - were really great, i love their new stuff. good laugh as well with the merry dance.

fluffy - were good chuckle, i got a bit of a thrash to bob hoskins which was fine. mario was funny.

alan cynic - i really enjoyed hs set, his lyrics were very clever and humourous. i especially liked the quiffs bit and the ginger.

sadly i missed mike mass. :-(

good night