if u actually look into it they have been going for longer than u think even when charlie was in busted he was rehearsing with fighstar. And if u were offered some money ur telling me u would turn it down?? gd luck eating and living then! i like this band i think their songs are gd and they have strong melodies and gd songwriting ideas. They were playing most of the toilets in London if u have a wee look seeing as thats where they were based and they didnt do any mass promotion most of their 1st material was spread by word of mouth. And if u have any idea how royalties work u will know he probably has a wee tad bit of money form the busted stuff but the tourbus and everything will be paid back by the band to the record label from the money the recoup through sales, how do u expect bands to survive without any money?? Danny.