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you could do worse than hang out at the easyjet desk at the airport and wait for cancellations or no shows, they often let you go cheap if there's a cancellation i think.
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It's nothing to do with emo, all these suit wearing imposters are simply trying to impersonate the great casino. why, if he were here now, i'm sure he'd turn away in disgust.
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i don't know if this is strictly what you are asking about, but here's something i often do when recording drum patterns.
1. record a drum pattern on a drum machine
2. copy the drum pattern to an empty pattern on the drum machine
3. delete all but the kick drum beats on the copied pattern
4. record pattern to computer
5. repeat steps 2-4 for each drum sample used in the pattern.
so the end result will be, for example, 4 wav files (one each for kick drum/snare/cymbals/toms). These can then be multi-tracked in something like Acid/Cubase/Logic etc. etc. and eq'd individually with plugins in the specific program.
this can be a pain on the arse, but it can make your drums sound lot better, as the mixing of drum samples by the machine can often leave them flat and drowned in the mix.
are you talking about recording live drums though? if so, and you have numerous microphones, then it's likely that you will need some sort of mixing desk anyway, if not simply because some of your mics may need phantom power.
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that was a great gig... chris tt was brilliant too, looking forward to his band coming back at the end of the month.
dear god i was really drunk on saturday. still, i'm hoping the photos of gary numan came out alright.
jimbob was a thoroughly nice bloke too.
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i've used reason a bit before, though mostly for using my midi keyboard. it has some really nice piano samples which i would record into reason then import into whatever i was multi-tracking with.
the interface to reason can be a bit overwhelming at first, there's so much to play with and configure. i know i've never used it anywhere close to its capabilities, however, i've seen what happens when someone does, and it can be really impressive.
however, i don't find it very organic to work with, i'm a lazy multitracker. 2.5 of reason has much better distortion panels than 2.0. i'd say it's worth the money they charge for it, compared to the price of other software packages.
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Originally posted by ghost:
What are you building, a MONSTER?!
Hah, no. But the thought had crossed my mind. It's just a cheaper way of making patch cables and guitar leads, hopefully I won't have to buy any ever again now. I could make a wig out of the cable with the jacks at the end, aka the predator.
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hmm, i liked grand theft audio. some of the album was a bit hit and miss, but on the most part i thought it was pretty cool. i listened to it for the first time in ages last week and it sounded surprisingly fresh. saw them live at the cathouse too - rich battersby is an amazing drummer. they did loads of stuff with samples and it was all very well done live. plus they did an amazing cover of "planet of sound" by the pixies.
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Re: Re: Electronic components
Originally posted by Chris:RS are trade only as far as I'm aware.
And not much better to boot, pricewise. I found this great place online:
It seems to be a frontend to the farnell site, yet I couldn't find half of the components on the farnell site. The website itself is a bit unwieldy to use with the categories, but the search facility is really handy.
Amongst other things, I got 30 mono jack connectors and 100m drum of double insulated single core audio cable for 31 quid, which would have cost about 70 quid at Maplin.
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usually make sure you and your gear are there by about 5:30pm -ish. soundcheck could be anytime between then and 7:28pm.
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I'm just doing the MIDI one as I'm busy on Wednesdays. Just interested to find out what the courses are like.
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How are they going? What sort of things have you covered so far? Decent turnout? Good rate of progress? What sort of equipment used/demonstrated?
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You could also mention things like the Mackie Hard Disk Recorder. Although it is tied to Mackie Hardware (which is just a standard PC running their own realtime OS), it is quite similar to protools and many other DAW software.
There's a couple of interesting pages on the Ardour website here and here that describe some basic DAW hardware and software concepts.
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yeah the digitech whammy looks and sounds interesting. it's the big red one i think. it's also used by the bassist in tool. i think it costs about 180 quid. i've always wanted to have a shot of one, but i think it's the sort of thing i'd only ever use in one song.
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Originally posted by Vaya:
hmmmm how can i make six quid in 35 minutes-ideas please?
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Originally posted by Tav:
www.maplin.co.uk you said they were a rip off but the prices are good as far as I am concerned that's where I source my bits n pieces from.
Well I love Maplin for a browse, but I'll give you an example of why I think they are expensive.
I recently had a need to make several 50cm mono leads. At Maplin, the 6.35mm mono jack connectors are 99p each. Yet on the internet, I can buy from several different companies, the same product for 17p a throw. That shows you the markup they make on small components. They are better on cabling though, I haven't yet found a place that has the variety of cable that Maplin stores have.
You're right, Maplin are good for a one-off project where you buy everything you need, and you can save on postage too. But do things in bulk and they become rather uneconomic.
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Your fairly cheap option for a multitrack card is the delta 44 from m-audio.
http://www.studiospares.com/productdetails.asp?pid=48120&gid=1&cid=1
not that much more expensive than the audigy, but bear in mind that it's more of an audio interface than a sound card, i.e. it's geared more for recording, mixing and routing rather than as a gaming/media center/dvd playback sound card, which the audigy is definitely aimed at.
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Originally posted by Dag'n'Mandy:
No Paul, they're still on the go,
Ask for "Jim" he's cool, also a guitar player...
But where are they located? I went up to the shop at Don Street but the shop was all shut up!
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Where do people buy electronic components in Aberdeen, other than Maplin? Maplin are handy but are a big rip off. I would buy online, but I'm struggling to find one retailer that has everything I want, and don't want to get stung by delivery charges from multiple places.
What happened to Grampian Electronics, did they go bust?
There's a RS place up in Altens, but does anyone know if it has a customer front end or is it trade only?
ta
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Originally posted by Pierre Von Mondragon:
Yeah thats us
Playing at an unit/warehouse/arches party somewhwere in Glasgow this weekend, mad techno/ rock soundclash stylee. I dont't know exactly where but it WILL be mental.
Is that at the Sound House?
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Originally posted by Ewan U.N.C.L.E.:
only one source at a tme with an audigy? grrr hope not. Does this mean one instrument? any reccomendations on an affordable soundcard?
As far as I can work out from the web, the Audigy (even the zs model with the breakout drive thing) does not do multi tracking.
It's up to you whether you really need a multiple input soundcard. Having a mixing desk may eliminate the need for you to have such a card. For example, if you wanted to record an electro acoustic guitar from 3 sources (e.g. line + 2 mics), you could put all that through your desk, and then take the L and R from the desk into the stereo line in / aux in on the audigy. The pitfall with that is once the recording is on your computer, you cannot change the levels of the individual inputs (so if your line is too loud, tough luck).
if you do want to look at multiple input cards, m-audio are a good start. the delta range cards are good, as is the audiophile card. the breakout box is really handy with the delta range cards though. i think terratec dmx fire cards are actually based on the same chipset, but include different connecting hardware and of course drivers and bundled software. infact they don't seem to support multi input recording. going higher end you get RME cards like the hammerfall, but that's way beyond my needs (or expertise).
here's a site of interest:
http://www17.tomshardware.com/video/20020115/
Note how they mention that the audigy plays back at 24bit/96Khz but can only record at 16bit/44.1khz.
some websites i found useful for buying/browsing kit:
A couple of other points, the more you spend on your sound card, the better the quality of the AD and DA converters. The sound cards typically have lower latency also (partially through good driver support e.g. ASIO/WDM/Alsa etc.), which lessens the chances of tracks being recorded out of sync, dropouts, etc.
i had a lot of use out of my sb live card, and they certainly are good value for the price on the most part. it just depends what you want to be able to do.
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Originally posted by Ewan U.N.C.L.E.:
So in a typical recording scenario what would happen (using mic's to mixer to P.C.)
I apologise for my badgering and whatnot
in particular, some of this is useful:
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Originally posted by ghost:
The technical term for the soundcard being able to record and play at the same time is "full duplex". Oh yes, 4 years at uni for that my boy...
Yeah, I was going to mention it being full duplex, but then I remembered that having full duplex capabilities isn't that uncommon now. But it was when I bought the card in 1999!! The best thing about the SBLive is being able to play multiple audio streams at once. Even now, most audio cards (especially those cheapy on motherboard jobs) only let one application write to the soundcard (e.g. play) at a time. In Linux, you get sound servers that mix incoming streams for you to get around this, but I don't know if windows XP now does such a thing?
what did you do at uni ghost, by the way?
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Well you have a number of options, but here's one I did last night.
1. Plug electro-acoustic into mixing desk
2. Plug mic into mixing desk and switch on phantom power
3. twiddle nobs because you can, then eq and pan and adjust levels to taste.
4. connect L and R outputs from mixing desk into soundcard. For me this is Inputs 1 & 2, for you it may be the auxilliary RCA connectors on the audigy 2 drive panel thingy. You may need some connector converter type things if your desk has 6.3mm mono jack outs. Alternatively just make your own cables.
5. Record two inputs simultaneously to two tracks in multitrack software. i use Ardour on Linux, but it's not really any different from cakewalk/cooledit (now adobe audition?)/cubase
With your audigy, I have a feeling you may only be able to record one source at a time, but don't quote me on that.
Another thing you can do with multiple ins/outs is funny routing stuff. just to see if i could work out how to do it, i recorded three parts of a drum machine pattern onto my computer (kick, snare, cymbals on ins 1, 2 and 3). Once they were on the computer i routed the three tracks back to 3 channels on the mixing desk so that I could EQ them, change the levels and pan them. The L and R output of the desk then went straight back into ins 1 and 2, and I then had a nicer sounding drum track. However it was all a bit pointless as the software had EQ plugins builtin that i could have used on each track separately. d'oh.
is there not stuff about all this malarky on the aubl website anyway?
PC recording...
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Re: Re: PC recording...
yeah i know, i was just trying to be helpful at the expense of relevance. i thought it would be more likely that Tav had a single input (i.e. line/in or mic/in) soundcard and a drum machine, than a multi-io soundcard with a mixing desk, a drum kit, and a set of mics with which to record a live kit.