Cool, I'll check out those links. From my research so far I found a number of poly synths from the 80s to be well reviewed (Roland Juno 106 and 60, Korg DW-8000) and which are around 200 today - I know what you mean about the number of damaged ones out there. So you'd totally recommend the Roland JP-8000? I just read some reviews, going to check YouTube demos now. Funny thing you mention SOund On Sound though, you get better second hand ad options on there than you do on ebay! Well, if I went with my original plan when starting this thread, a budget around 300. Yeah the more I research the MicroKorg the more I'm being put off it. I saw a Minimoog Voyager being used by a band a couple of weeks ago. Truly outstanding, really fat notes, just what I want, but of course that, and the Phatty you recommend are above my budget (checked for the Phatty on GAK - near 800 bucks). In the end what I'm trying to achieve is a fat synth sound like Health but enough to it I can make something strange like Locust. Trouble is, for someone new to this, like myself, there's so much to choose from!!!