Cloud

or The No Pints

I saw them once at Kef...didn't know who they were, but one of their members had clearly been drinking..wonder who that was?

(or was this The Planeteers...? no wait...most of them were usually wasted)

The wheel of booze was a stroke of genius

Genius/carnage I fell down those stairs in Sivells once when absolutely screwed on stupidly cheap vodka..didn't feel a thing

Those photos you posted a link to...awful I spent so much of my 17th/18th years hanging out in Seasons aimlessly (with a barmaid called Amy that used to sell us alcohol despite knowing fine well that half of us were underage)..It's just awful to see it that way.

I don't think Aberdeen students these days realise what they could've had, if AUSA weren't imcompetent fuckers...

you ever noticed how when you post, it comes out completely fine for half of it, then for the latter half you TYPE like a drunk aberdonian?

Maybe he is, in fact, a drunk Aberdonian for the latter half of his posts?

it's not a patch on the original.

Get out, it's actually better.

This might be due to apathy with the original after having heard it countless times...

Agreed, that place was first port of call for me and my mates when we first moved through here, a huge heaving 7-bar monster of a Union!

(Sivells, Seasons, The Factory, Games Room, Assosciates, Liquid Loft and the Dungeon! 7 bars - loved it!)

Jesus, it seems like so long ago...I remeber the carnage of thursday nights with the stupidly cheap drinks when I was 17. Absurdly, they wouldn't let us in with our fake college IDcards on a Friday or Saturday, but they were fine with us during the week.

Me and Les Stroszek had many a fine game of snooker in there too back in the day..alas

US Postal was full of dodgers later found to have doped (Floyd Landis for one). At least David Millar has come clean and now, in the Garmin team, is in an anti-doping team, unlike Cofidis. Yer man Cavendish kicked much ass this year. I hate that the Tour is no longer on proper telly, must get a digibox by next year.

You know what they say, never comeback, I can't see it working for him.

Arguably though, the whole Phonak team was rotten - Hamilton got busted while riding for them too, so it's hard to tell if Landis was doping while at Postal, particularly as he suffered badly at times while riding for them.

It does seem to depend on who/what he signs for - if it's for Astana, then I wouldn't put it past him winning once more. The Kazakh government (through the sponsors of Astana) have thrown a fair bit of money at the team - and it wouldn't surprise me if they threw yet more money to secure Armstrong. Their strategy of signing Kazakh riders blew up in their face with Vinokourov, so Armstrong would be a logical choice. I also suspect that he'd get the total control that he'd demand with them, whereas other teams may be more hesitant.

The Kazakh's may also be willing to spend the money to repair the damage done to the Astana name with the drug scandals in recent years. They weren't allowed in the TdF by ASO this year, and I *think* they weren't allowed in the Vuleta either. If Armstrong joins, then doors will inevitably open, particularly given his strong anti-doping stance.

The more pertinent question is can he win it cleanly?

He's arguably one of the most tested, if not the most tested athlete in the world - they were absolutely desperate to get him on a doping charge, and yet they couldn't produce one positive result. If he was upto something suspicious, someone, somewhere would've found definitive proof to put him out - but nothing stuck.

There's been an argument for years over his 1999 win, as samples were allegedly retained and then tested for EPO when a test became available - and Armstrong's apparently tested positive. But the re-tests were done in such dodgy circumstances that they wouldn't be accepted as having integrity at all.

But as the man himself says - why would he want to put anything into his body that might harm it after having cancer?

The thing that should be considered about Armstrong's victories is that his entire year was based around the TdF - US Postal/Discovery Channel essentially existed for him to win the tour, and his preparations were absolutely insane. You also have to consider that he did win at the World Championships at the age of 21 - so he definitely had the talent, particularly after cancer lost him the muscle in his upper body that was a factor in his previous poor performances in Europe.

If Armstrong gets the right team for 2009, he's going to be unbeatable in the TdF. Even at 38, his training will be absolutely meticulous and the team will be chosen to help him win

The conditions couldn't be better really - Evans has been shown up to be useless, Contador is with Astana (who Lance is likely to end up with) already, Ricco is banned, Sastre has moved to a new experimental team and Andy Schleck is still too young and inexperienced to win.

No-one else is probably capable of winning it - maybe Kirchen, but the current Team Columbia which is the successor to Team Telekom/T-Mobile will remeber that no matter what they did, Armstrong always had the measure of them.

I cannot wait now.

Well, I haven't heard her album, but I love that song "Mr Rock and Roll". *runs off to hide*

Mr Rock and Roll is an absolute belter of a song. I keep hearing it on the radio here, alongside Bleeding Love by Leona Lewis and that Always Forever song by the Welsh bird, whatever her name was...

I'm absolutely in shock, I didn't think I'd ever get the chance to see him ride competitively...and now o_O

BBC SPORT | Other sport... | Cycling | Armstrong to make shock comeback

He's undoubtably been encouraged by the fact that the winner of the TDF this year was 33, and that the favourite in Cadel Evans doesn't know the meaning of 'attack'.

Can he win it?

as for Deenfest promo (not the individual "deenfest" show) i can't think of a better group in aberdeen who get people through the door. which, surely, is all you want/expect from a "promotions" company. Whether you like the bands they put on or not is moot. If people are going to the gig, then obviously there is a demand for it, ergo they were correct in the first place to book them.

It should be mentioned that amount of people through the door isn't the be all and end all of success - as has been said before, the people going to the type of gigs that Deenfest put on won't be spending a huge amount at the bar. Therefore, you can't entirely judge their success on numbers as the critical factor is the bar making enough money, not the promotions company.

It wouldn't surprise me if Drummonds made more from 100 people at a 18+ gig than they do at a 14+ deenfest gig that's at capacity.

this is driving me nuts. it's bad enough that people mix these two words up on the internet with alarming abandon but they just did it on the bbc news! gah!

Your/You're is my personal hatred, it just looks so idiotic when people mix them up :/

Have a look at your reputation comments. There is plenty of people on these forums that have a dislike of the nature of your posts.

The question I find myself asking is why someone who lives and works in Poland (and South-East England before that) and who is not involved with any music scene, let alone the music scene of Aberdeen, is continuing to post on this web site.

Having a look at my reputation comments, you can see a little circle of people who praise each other and all reside within the same circle of the music scene. Surely you're not silly enough to miss the fact that the people making the comments all comment on each other's threads and attend gigs together?

For that reason alone, you can hardly see any validity, particularly as I've been particularly vocal about some aspects of their cliquey nature.

Not involved with any music scene? I did a few things down in the South East that no-one on this site would care or listen about, and have helped others as and when I felt like it. I don't talk about these things, they're insignificant and quite honestly would probably get pathetic remarks directed at them by keyboard warriors, so..what's the point?

As for why I continue to post? Unless plans change, I'll be moving back to Aberdeen in two years time, and still spend a fair bit of time in the city each year. For that reason, the forums are still of interest and relevance. There's some decent debates on here from time to time, when people restrain themselves from pointless petty personal attacks.

No worries there, I don't have a credit card with them (nor would I, they're a rip-off).

Useful for abroad though, their debit card seems to be dodgy in its acceptance (had all sorts of trouble getting it to work in bank machines here, though I've now got a few machines that definitely work), even CalMac and some other businesses in the UK can't accept their debit card for some reason.

That's presumably an anti-fraud measure. After all, I think it is safe for them to assume that if you are banking with a UK high-street bank then you will reside somewhere in the UK.

Awkward though, particularly when they're used by people who are still resident in the UK, but aren't in the UK at the minute. Even more irritating was being told "If you had an international account, then we could send you a replacement"...but their international account is nothing short of an absolute ripoff.

Make them work to raise the 10k that they cost local charities..perhaps by doing humiliating things like cleaning prison toilets and so on?

Cloud, you do know there are other forums available, right?

Right.

But why move, just because someone has an grudge bordering on the obsessional?

Personally, top of my "cock-o-meter" list would be the phrase, "mint". For example "That's mint".

"Chief" ranks quite highly too..as in "hey chief".

*stab*

....this is supposed to be a happy thread!

what's your motivation for posting this link cloud? undoubtably it's an interesting piece but i don't understand why you'd want to randomly post it on this board. how do you imagine this thread panning out?

I was hoping that someone would be able to come along and provide more information, it was the first time that I'd come across this kind of thing happening in faith schools and wanted to know more, really. I was curious on people's views, particularly those by people that might support faith schools.

perhaps i'm being cynical. i just don't understand why it's relevant 6 months after it was broadcast, it's no longer current affairs. don't worry i'm not just picking on this post because you posted it but because it smells a bit of trying to stir up anti muslim discussion.

Oh, I have no intention of stirring up anti muslim discussion - I would be really interested to find out if the same thing is happening in schools of other faiths, too. The fact that it's an Islamic school is of no relevance - if it was a Jewish school, or a Catholic one, I would've posted it all the same.

I just found it fascinating really, and hoped that those with an interest in this kind of thing would reply.

(as an aside, I found the link to the report on the site on the forums that you linked me to)

A bit old, but perhaps still relevant for those that haven't seen it before.

Quite interesting, and quite a vintage Paxman performance too.

The UK Debate forums. Political and current affairs debates

off you pop.

Fascinating, have you actually read that forum? It's basically a nice little cover for BNP-supporting types to preach about "free speech" while forgetting about their responsibilities under it.

Are you being serious? Do you honestly not know why you receive so much abuse on this web site? (which we do deal with every time by the way' date=' taking up plenty of our valuable time)[/quote']

Neil, I'm not looking for an argument over this - I'm simply utterly confused by why it's not acceptable to report a post that contained yet more personal attacks - especially given that it would've been just as easy to reply with abuse back.

Can you really not see that dear Teabags has a real and scary obsession with me to the point where he can't stop himself? I can take as good as I get, but where he's concerned, I've done my best for months to ignore his constant self-appointed moral crusade, yet he's still allowed to keep on making these attacks. It's completely and utterly illogical - you say they're dealt with, yet he's still posting them time after time.

How many people are put off posting here because they're afraid of getting their opinion flamed, particularly if it doesn't conform to what the forum collectively thinks? I'm not talking in a Stripey "You're all fucking morons for listening to rock" way, but more someone that might have something constructive to say.

Attack the opinion, not the person

Sounds like a man badly in need of your expert advice regarding his business plan.

Expert advice? What more possible advice does he need, considering he was raking in the cash from passers by?

You mean you didn't criticise the font, spacing etc. on his sign?

You didn't see this guy...he was singing bizzare Polish songs, had a massive smile on his face and was quite clearly absolutely cunted on aftershave

I'm with Llloyds TSB and have never had a single problem with them.

Be warned, they recently decided to migrate my credit card to a new one without warning me, only for the new one to be sent to Aberdeen and the old one cancelled (which is with me). I'm waiting on word if it's possible for the card to be reactivated - they don't seem to think it's possible, but they're going to call me when they get a definitive answer from the card authorisation people.

They also, bizzarely, can't send new cards abroad.

Does that mean i can say Ross is a sleaze again because i haven't quoted Scott.

He's not a sleaze, he can't pull for shit

I'll throw in a vote tomorrow, it's the least I can do

Good luck with it

This is utterly illogical....

http://www.aberdeen-music.com/forums/news-announcements/51181-we-shall-blessed.html#post682535

Then....

http://www.aberdeen-music.com/forums/general-discussion/51318-happy-thread.html#post684154

How is the above post in any way compatible with what Dave said?

And then I get infraction points and warned for reporting the post, with this...

That isn't an example of trolling. He's making a perfectly valid point - no-one cares about you moving to Poland.

How on earth is it a valid point to say that "this thread is shit" and to be insulting towards someone, when the staff position was that such nonsense was to stop?

A bit of consistency wouldn't go amiss here....it would be nice to post in an environment where people merely debated things and used reason rather than insults to make their points.

There's just no need for abuse :/