KimyReizeger

Interesting too they decided to show a clip of her 'performing' with John Lennon.

Noticed a wee camper van has been sitting there since before the summer...

Did you register it with the journal of suspicious things happening in small towns?

I mean seriously, what the hell was that? Uncomfortably sandwiched in between some pretty decent stuff. A weird lady with almost no grasp of English pronunciation singing lyrics a child would be scolded for producing:

'I saw you standing on the pier

Trying to hide your.....fear'

Yes, it's a gentleman of the old school.

This is a good price for a quality guitar which has some minor blemishes.

Floyd-rose tremolo, 24 frets, thin neck. One or two small dents, some youthful paintwork which could be removed but isn't too obtrusive, a missing back plate and missing whammy bar; all reflected in the price.

Classic Ibanez: great for people who want to play fast, heavy-metal type stuff. Powerful pick-ups, nippy fretboard, looks great.

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Email: kimyreizeger@hotmail.co.uk or PM on here if interested.

Yeah, aside from this I've never re-read a book before for pleasure. I literally can't find anything which zings for me at the moment; keep starting then stopping things that people recommend etc.

At a loss for things to read at the moment so re-reading 'Success' my Martin Amis, which is really good book about a group of people going slowly insane due to over-prevalence of rampant narcissism, materialism, sexual humiliation and incest within their family. It's written from the point of view of the two male children, who occupy entirely different positions within society yet are forced to live with one another.

Wagner's Tannhauser overture

YouTube - Wagner - Tannhauser Overture - Karajan

Try that on on your headphones at 5 in the morning

I'd say ease up on the strumming and let the songs breathe a little. When you play guitar in such a standard way there's no point in foregrounding it too much; the chords you play could in fact be pretty sparse yet communicate greater power and lend something a bit more endearing than strummy-strum-strum-strum, if held back a bit. In my opinion that's the difference between having something special and being a really good open-mic-ist

Enjoyed 'em.

The mixture of sounds is pretty cool and spacey. The appearance of things is at first unsettling but I could get used to it. It's good to see electronic performance of this type. Yes I'd love to have a shotty.

Bettencourt was such a stompingly good guitarist. More Than Words is probably their worst song.

I'd say amazon offers the best value in terms of price, and also time saved from not walking around second-hand shops discovering that none of 'em have your book. Other than that you have your college bookshop which is generally to be avoided.

Thanks man. That Novation Xiosynth looks well good for the money. What software do you use with it? Is that Xcite+ Pack included?

Not sure about add-ons etc; I got mine over 2 years ago. I use it with Ableton. The synth itself is decent, easy-to-use with more features than you'd realistically need. The MIDI controller aspect is fairly regular, and you can switch easily between the two modes. It talks to the computer via USB therefore syncing up with your DAW is easy and you need not dick around with MIDI cables and associated timing problems. One of the best things I found with it was to write music in MIDI and have the computer essentially play the keyboard, leaving me free to fiddle with sounds and what-not.

You can probably get a flavour of it by listening to my tracks. Whilst the potential of the machine is hardly on complete display, every single sound you hear (inc. some drums / percussion) was made with the xiosynth:

KimyReizeger on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads

I really like the look of the micro-x. That said, if you have a decent DAW, the synth need only be the beginning of a sound: you can then go on to change it completely on the computer.

Oh, and he spelt Megadeth wrong. Twat.

To be fair it was probably some twatty sub-editor who did that.

A Novation Xiosynth can do all that you've requested there. I have one myself and would absolutely recommend as a very good entry point into synths. Mine was about 220 I think. Also, it might be worth having a look through what Alesis have available. Or, if you're looking to spend a bit more, check this out:

Korg Micro-X, - Online Music Store | Sounds Live

I'd actually feel more comfortable flicking through a porn mag than that infernal trash.

Whilst I think it really important to protect children from the kind of horrific abuses that can committed against them, I do worry about becoming a society of suspicious curtain twitchers, checking up on one another through government phone lines. I'm not sure the scale of offences warrants this level of state interference into people's lives (disclosure, new registering system for anyone who spends regular time with children, such as weekly car journeys). People should open their eyes to the adults spending time with their children and the effects these people make, rather than relying on the government to give them placebos, and what is ultimately a false sense of security. It's offensive and bloody depressing that we feel the need to ask people to present proof of their 'not-a-peado' status.

The thread seemed pretty dead so I'm just talking in general now. I've filled out four disclosure forms in the past two weeks. Why are we so paranoid these days?

You went a bit bonkers with the vocal reverb. It sounds very unnatural; when would a whisper command such epic, resounding tail-offs? It also brings in a bunch of really high frequencies which seem to contrast with the overall feel of the piece. Studio effects need a bit of transparency, but for me the reverb really just sticks out like a sore thumb.

More tunes up

I still don't understand this basic point; if we are simply animals then surely we shouldn't feel morally obliged to not kill other animals? If we are simply the dominant species then it is in our nature to eat any other animal if it serves our interests. I don't think there has been any valid argument as to why this is even a moral issue in that respect.

Animals don't have morality, but this is no basis on which to persecute them. Severely mentally-disabled people do not have....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... morality, but this is no basis on which to persecute them (sorry for nodding off there).

We aren't simply animals. We are out-with the Darwinian struggle for survival which animals in nature need contend with. We have a moral duty to spare at least a passing thought for any living creature which we interfere with.

As has been re-iterated countless times you can't justify your behaviour by reference to that of animals because animals do many things you wouldn't dream of doing.

What? I don't mean protecting humans from animals, I mean protecting humans from poverty, illness, each other, etc. It just worries me when people value *other* animal life more or equal to human life.

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No one is suggesting we place 'animals above humans', rather, that animals, by virtue of experiencing life, should enjoy the same right to retain life. Many animals hold characteristics found similarly in humans. Go and watch cows in a field, you'll notice that they're a curious bunch, who take an interest in and interact with their surroundings. We also know that they experience pain in much the same way as we do. As far as I'm aware pig organs can more-or-less be used in human bodies. Shared characteristics therefore provide a very strong argument for granting animals certain rights enjoyed by humans.

Regarding your repeated suggestion 'we should be sorting out our own species' first. Like I said, we are under no direct threats. Living in Scotland in the 21st century is pretty rosy; you're unlikely to die of either of those blights you've brought forth (illness or poverty). We have time and space to explore new moral ground where poorer societies do not.

In closing, I'll say, that the decision to stop doing something that is immoral is in fact good for humans. A clean conscience is certainly more rewarding and beneficial than a life spent with sirloins. Therefore don't assume quitting meat is all about denying the human, which in fact enjoys a greater moral awareness.

We've been through all this! I'm speciesist, remember? Clearly I wouldn't eat a mentally-impaired person, because they are a human. I have more interest in protecting human life than protecting animal life. If this is wrong, then so be it.

Humans in Scotland have a large degree of freedom and have no immediate threat of death by slaughter. Therefore it makes little sense to invoke them as something you're protecting at the expense of animals. It is not the humans under threat on farms.

Furthermore, statements such as If this is wrong, then so be it, seriously undermine your contribution to moral debates.

I think this is a pretty good post overall and I understand your position, and would probably equate as fairly similar to my own current stance on the issue.

I think it's clear from this thread that your decision to eat meat comes down to whether you think there is any unnecessary suffering, not whether or not you'd eat a disabled person.

The disabled person reference is used to demonstrate that intellect and comprehension of the issue at hand play no part a debate concerning the morality of meat-eating. I don't believe there is a doubt that suffering is involved. Rather, the real question is whether or not you feel economic conditions in our society make it 'necessary' or not. It all hangs on that word. I believe the Armageddon / societal breakdown scenario predicted by Le Stu and maybe also Neil earlier is ridiculous and one cannot say we are too poor to procure and live well off other foodstuffs.

It is about us exploiting (rightly or wrongly) another species for our benefit.

I think it valid to suggest that, because we wouldn't do so with humans, we shouldn't do so with animals, for their equal ability to feel pain.

The negative sides of eating meat and diary are overplayed, much as the negative effects of eating a vegan diet are overplayed, and we get the benefit of being morally superior to the majority of the world by having the affluence and availability to the products required to eat a healthy diet with meat and dairy included or not.

Agreed

I also think that, as a society, eating animals that we have domesticated and cultured for millenia has become an intrinsic part of our economy and welfare of many that it is more than just an issue of animal suffering.

This is besides the point regarding the morality of meat-eating. It's the 'my father did it so will I' argument all over again. Economics don't play a part in the fundamental ethics of meat-eating.

But where one person may see a poltical or societal ideal, I see the abolition of multiple species intrinsically linked to the livelihood of billions across the world

I'm not saying you don't have a point, or that it isn't interesting, but don't these economical issues dilute the basic moral debate?

And, to recap something I said a few pages ago, I see a lack of applicability to the moral stance that no-one needs to eat meat or dairy: Billions do, across the world, because of the availability of foodstuffs limited by the lack of Tescos and Holland And Barretts. For me, I could not look down upon another human being's need to survive and criticise their choice of diet for doing so just because my affluent region affords me the luxury of choice. Our affluence comes at a cost of exploitation that encompasses more than just the welfare of cows. As a result, that question of 'unneccessary suffering' diminishes enough that I feel consciously happy to eat meat.

I take the point but think you are talking pragmatically, and not philosophically, on the subject. I am not sufficiently moved by an animal suffering for the plate yet to quit meat, but am going to investigate further, because there seems to be a lot of delusion and spin on the subject. Definately there are good moral grounds to not eat meat and I don't see why, in a society such as ours, a vegetarian diet should be shunned as impractical.

I actually think you're mostly repeating arguments that have been discussed in some detail .

Yes, and still waiting for a good answer. And genuinely hoping to hear one so I can go on eating steaks without pesky conscience kicking in! I'd disagree speciesism was deconstructed in the way you've suggested.

Furthermore Stichman, in relation to a cow being unable to comprehend moral issues, brought up when you said:

Presumably we'd think it moral to be moral because somewhere along the line we are protecting ourselves from the immorality of others. So why apply this to animals who have no comprehension of morality?

Why not apply the same logic to mentally-impaired people who have the same intellect and inability to understand philosophy as cows? Eat them too? The debate hangs on ability to suffer, and has nothing to do with intellect, because no-one would justify eating disabled people on the grounds that they haven't read understood Peter Singer's work on animal liberty and can't even explain how black holes work.