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Classic!!

somebody please add this one to aberdeen-music.com's compendium of best one liners ever!

Please do, with my blessing.

DZL

I also sense a lack of regard to the Phil bashing which takes place regularly on here. And I also notice he got upset with me when I never even made that comment in relation to his posts. Sheesh.

On the contrary - there's nothing like a spot of Phil-bashing of an evening. The horrible wee hing-oot deserves all he gets

..and I'm not upset with you or anyone today - I just like a good rant and enjoy dangling some bait

I'm fit, healthy and minted beyond belief - what is there to be upset about ?(

DZL

Connie

Regarding my last post, I didn't check your Public Profile therefore the "keyboard hero" reference most likely doesn't apply to you as these folk tend to be of the male persuasion. Many Apologies.

However the rest of the post stands.

DZL

Oh' date=' you sound like such an utter cock.

It's still music, not PRODUCT!!22!!!1 or whatever you're claiming. Will Young, Girls Aloud, etc. might not write the music, but they still sing it, don't they?

Since when was music all about the song-writing, anyway? So you're telling me that you'd genuinely applaud some miserable looking, balding man singing "Love Machine" with his terrible, out-of-tune voice, purely because he WROTE it?

Have a good voice is as much of a talent as being able to write a good song, so please just be quiet.[/quote']

If you'd bothered to look at the thread at all you might have noticed that at no time did I mention songwriting ability (or the lack therefore).

And as regards to the other post - I don't rate Phil Collins either. Singer-songwriters can turn out utter drivel too - as has been proved time and again by Mr Collins.

Like I said, this is a music site and this is a discussion thread where we can vent our spleens from time to time. I've put more positive than negative threads/replies/posts on this site since joining, but this morning I felt like having a rant at an aspect of the music industry that I have an issue with.

You have seen fit to hurl an insult at me when you know absolutey nothing about me whatsoever. I very much doubt your response would have been the same if we were having this debate in a bar.

Computer forums the world over are polluted with insignificant, impotent (and probably incontinent) little "keyboard heroes" who from the perfect safety of their anonimity live out their fantasies of being "well hard" (try some of the BBC football forums).

Having generally equated an appreciation of music with intelligence, I expected this site to be different.

Wrong again.

DZL

The Pelvis

Exactly. Elvis Presley always sung other peoples songs. And he was The King.

The King of What (or Where)

...but seriously' date=' the King had something new to offer at that time and had genuine presence, I contend that all these acts are insipid and deriviate - I do admit Mr Young has exceptional vocal ability, but has very little real credibility - because he took a shortcut.

With regards to the other post....

It's a free country and everyone has their own equally valid opinion, but this is a [b']music site and these acts IMHO are Product

I guess my problem with game-show derived and chart acts of the 90's/00's are: -

• The British media's lack of discrimination between art & marketability and the British public's misguided (and seeemingly voracious) appetite for mediocrity
  
• That the "music" is inconsequential, the whole thing is a clothing, cosmetics and accessories sales drive. My daughter has severely dented my bank balance as a result!!!!
  
• That none of the girls are sexy or elegant - frankly, they look like slags & lapdancers, not real women (believe me, when you get to my age, you'll be suprised at how repulsive they look to you - and I'm not that old)
  
• That none of them want to be GOOD - they just want to be FAMOUS, therefore the "art" doesn't matter and their loyal fans (who throw 's at them) are short-changed.
  

And finally, hard work? - gie's peace!!

Getting up out of bed to to a job you hate to put food on the table is real hard work - not everyone has the media-friendly looks required to "make-it" or the other opportunites to be whatever passes as a success these days and get the huge rewards.

Slogging through the club circuit to get people to listen to your music - and drawing a blank coz you don't fit the media profile is also hard work.

DZL

Ps - Don't take me too seriously, I'm always up for a good debate. I've nothing against Will Young, but I do despise all the other frauds.

Will Young

A mincer of the highest order...

...and furthermore, I have no time for c*nts who get handed success on a plate, when talented, hard-working acts have to slog their way to recognition.

All that game show & reality TV pish is a celebration of mediocrity and like the 51st State of America that were are, the stupid, stupid British public swallow it like a $30 blow-job.

Can someone please explain to me why two thick, ugly, talentless slags are now millionairesses?? - neither of them can sing, dance, cook, act or have any business acumen. Neither of the two repulsive wee hoors can do anyting other than stand there and look like the operation to remove their brains was a complete success. ?(

Yet, the idiotic, schemie British public throw money at them both...

...and it's EXACTLY the same with Will Young, Girls Are Pish, Liberty Pish etc.

Completely abysmal non-acts getting repetitive airplay and all the opportunities to the detriment of REAL acts

TV Magicians

Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!......

....that a 60's/70's TV magician could have been so influential in the development of Prog-Rock!!!!!

Sadly, I'm old enough to remember David Nixon

The videos is great - and in colour too!!!!

You can see where Harry Enfield got his inspiration for those brilliant "Chumley-Warner" information film spoofs.

DZL

I see his latest drummer-for-hire project is on Juliette and the Licks' new album. According to her My Space blog anyways.

Is that thon strange (but sexy) wee dame Juliette Lewis from Kalifornia & Natural Born Killers?

Most cynical piece of movie marketing

One of the most cynical pieces of movie marketing I've ever seen was for "Vision Quest" starring Matthew Modine and Linda Fiorentino (sexy burd fae "Men in Black")

Madonna appears as a singer in a bar performing "Crazy For You" and it's a background non-speaking role.

The movie - about an aspiring High School wrestler, who wants to take on the state heavyweight champ and falls in love with an older woman (Fiorentino) - is actually OK, but did hee-haw at the box office.

By the time it was due for release on video, Madonna's career had gone stratospheric and the clever marketing dudes released the movie as "Crazy For You" starring Matthew Modine and Madonna and both the video box and the trailers were ambigous enough for you to think that his characters fall for Moadonna's - even though she's only in for less that 20 secs.

Opportunist or what ?

DZL

Chris Isaak pops up as an FBI agent in Silence of the Lambs I think he's in the Twin Peaks film as well.

Good spot - Agent Chester Desmond in Twin Peaks, Swat Team Leader in Silence.....

Any Given Sunday

Not a shite movie - but a blinding, eclectic soundtrack, hardcore rap, soul, metal etc..

There's a special treat for Metallica fans in the changing room scene...

...hugely muscled and tatooted Linebacker "Madman" changes the music on the ghetto blaster from hip-hop to metal and when one of his black teammates complains, he screams in his face...

"HETFIELD IS GOD, YOU SHOULD BOW DOWN BEFORE HIM....""

Brilliant

DZL

Trucks

"Maximum Overdrive"

Good short story "Trucks" turned into a pile of steaming shite by the author himself - Stephen King.

Good soundtrack AC/DC in an otherwise gash movie notable only for the presence of Yeardley Smith - the voice of Lisa Simpson

DZL

It is' date=' but the movie aint shite![/quote']

Utterly Bizarre!!! I was just thinking about that movie!!

Great, if totally depressing, movie and the "ass to ass" scene with Jennifer Connelly is unwatchable.

Man' date=' those films are bad.[/quote']

Do you think so?

They're dated to be sure, but "Stardust" is a fairly accurate portrayal of "pop will eat itself" as Essex's characters expectations exceed his capabilities.

Adam Faith is brill as the slimy manager - "You can't die!!! I own half of you!!!"

DZL

Anachronism

Ironically the guitar that Michael J Fox "plays" in Back to the Future (I think it was Rick Derringer who actually played what you hear) was a 1960s model ES-345. Maybe the guitar player from the band had a time machine as well?

Dusty - you ARE the Gibson uber-geek

Good spot though - I'm not really up on vintage guitars' date=' but I thought it looked kinda "new" for the era.

Hey - there's another potential thread - [b']Musical Anachronisms (look it up), where music/kit is used, or a reference made from time-frame AHEAD of that in which the movie is set.

"Detroit Rock City" has one where a song form '79 is used and the movie is set in '78.

(now who's the geek )

DZL

Jagger

Last one before I get back to doing whatever it is I'm supposed to be getting paid for

Performance - with Mick Jagger, especially for the "video-within-a-movie" of Jagger singing "Memo from Turner" - it's absolutely YEARS ahead of it's time.

The film came out in '70 and you can see it's influence on Tarantino, Guy Ritchie, Paul McGuigan etc.

A brilliant gangster flick, directed by Donald Cammell & Nicolas Roeg that has sick violence, kinky sex scenes and weird post-60's imagery - what more do you want?

Trivia - The gangster who's pursuing James Fox's character was a real-life London underworld boss.

Trivia - Jagger has a sex scene with Anita Pallenberg, who was Keef's burd at the time. Apparently there was some friction (pun intended)

Bowie

Speaking of the Thin White Duke - Bowie has a split-second cameo as a barman in "The Virgin Soldiers" from 1969.

Incubus

Has anyone ever seen the 80's horror film "Incubus" (circa '81/'82) ???

There's a scene when the title monster butchers someone in the bogs at a rock concert. The band is Samson and they are playing "Vice Versa". The singer is non-other than pre-Maiden Bruce Dickinson.

The concept was ripped of the next year in "The Hunger", where two goths are murdered and have their blood sucked by David Bowie and Catherine Denueve to the image of Bauhaus (arty-farty tossers) playing "Bela Lugosi's Dead"

DZL

So true they all so out of place at that Soundgarden gig. There's also the ace scene with Chris Cornells nodding his head in approval at the power of the Matt Dillon's stereo and then there's Eddie Vedder not doing very much at all. Watching a programme about bees possibly' date=' if i remember correctly.

I really want to see 9 Songs. I could have rented it the other week but my mate didn't want to take to the girl at the desk in case she thought we were renting a porn film together. Pretty In Pink is another film with some tunes by the Smiths and New Order. And Killing Moon at the start of Donnie Darko is ace.[/quote']

9 Songs eh?

You mate would have been right!! t IS a porn film.

Pretentious claptrap, but decent music.

DZL

Come on guys this really isn't helping me shift the amp I like NEVER use. Its turning into a total meaningless banter type situation. Anyone want my amp like at all!!! Its signed by Carlos Santana' date=' Ricki Lake and Clint Eastwood (however there's no proof of the signatures being legit). Aye Aye bargain bargain!!!! I'll even throw in a lead, a can of Pepsi Lime and a ham and cheese toastie. How could anyone say no!!!!![/quote']

Sorry Bud - I think ALL posts tend to go off at a tangent at some point. - have pm'd you.

ps Rikki Lake??? WTF????

Spinal Tap! The most obvious of all rock films.

Rock and Roll High School featuring the Ramones. Classic.

Almost Famous as well I suppose. Although I haven't seen it in ages and remember thinking it wasn't as good as it should have been.

Good call!

I thought "Almost Famous" was just OK first time around, but and 2nd & 3rd viewings, I thought it was brilliant.

Just watched Back To The Future for the umpteenth time with my 7-year-old Metallica' date=' Purple, Zep, Sabbath loving daughter and the scene where Marty plays "Johnny B Goode" and then starts shredding, to the utter bewilderment of the 50's audience, had us both in stitches (gets me every time!). Not to mention all the other rock/metal references.

It got me thinking of other movies with a rock theme or good cameos.

Do you guys have any faves, good examples (embarassingly bad examples)...

Starter for 10...

[list']

[*]Back To The Future I & III

[*]Rock Star

[*]Wayne's World I & II

[*]School of Rock

[*]Calender Girls (Slayer Cameo - honest!)

DZL

Correction - it might have been Anthrax in "Calendar Girls". Remind me, is that who Scott Ian plays with?

Just watched Back To The Future for the umpteenth time with my 7-year-old Metallica, Purple, Zep, Sabbath loving daughter and the scene where Marty plays "Johnny B Goode" and then starts shredding, to the utter bewilderment of the 50's audience, had us both in stitches (gets me every time!). Not to mention all the other rock/metal references.

It got me thinking of other movies with a rock theme or good cameos.

Do you guys have any faves, good examples (embarassingly bad examples)...

Starter for 10...

• Back To The Future I & III
  
• Rock Star
  
• Wayne's World I & II
  
• School of Rock
  
• Calender Girls (Slayer Cameo - honest!)
  

DZL

Sensational Alex Harvey Band (SAHB)

Just plain brilliant. Four gallus Glesca lads (Tear Gas) meet up with veteran never-quite-made-it rocker (also a Weedgie) and the unlikely alliance turned into the shit-hottest band on the planet for a couple of years - before it all imploded.

Their live shows were second-to-none and they had (still have) one of the finest guitarists ever in Zal Cleminson - a musician who can say more in three notes than all the technically brilliant shredders can in hours of lightning-fast legato. He's the reason I started playing and the reason I upped my game and pratice time after he blew me and my tutor (a genius himself) right off our feet and through the wall at Moshulu last December.

They were very much like Queen in that their music was extremely diverse, from straight blues-based boogie thru metal to prog-rock epics. Sadly, like Queen, a good deal of the album material was utter bollocks (Zal admits as much in the biography).

But when SAHB were at the top of their game, they were astounding. Some recommended tracks...

• St Anthony, Hammer Song - Framed
  
• Faith Healer, Next, Vambo Marble Eye, Last of the Teenage Idols - Next
  
• Hot City Symphony, Anthem - Impossible Dream
  
• Give My Compliments to the Chef, Action Strasse, Stoneeater - Tomorrow Belongs to Me
  
• Live - The whole album. It's a blueprint for any aspiring band.
  
• Scirocco, Amos Moses, Dogs Of War - SAHB Stories
  
• Rock Drill, Dolphins - Rock Drill
  

Faith Healer, Give My Compliments to the Chef & Dolphins are unmissable. Three of the finest songs ever commited to vinyl, please give them a listen, if only to say you've heard them and don't rate the band - but really LISTEN to the tracks.

The band are still touring with Max Maxwell (ex Shamen) who tried hard, but was pretty gash first time out. On the last tour he was fantastic. The band have updated and modernised their repertoire with a harder. metal edge, but are still SAHB as we know an love them. Catch them later on this year in Aberdeen (tba).

Thanks for reading.

DZL