Zzzzzzzzzzzzz "Oh, sorry bout that, i must of drifted off there, listening to Katerwaul's Page" Of course you aint going to like them, and to be fair they were probably pretty rubbish at the start, but for a bunch who only played their first gig about may last year, they've come on alright i'd say. Im pretty sure that people who go see them now couldnt put the "Shit" tag on them after a couple of member re-shuffles and new material, no mater what your musical preference is. I could say exactly the same about your lot anyway.... "Katerwaul - No doubt its some named from rural German City in Depression, which your music Reflects."Pulled apart at Birth Pt1".....now any one who has a Pointless pt1 & Pt2 in their songs, should of been "Pulled apart at birth" from the whole human race far as im concerned. As for "in the presence of absence" - IT DOESNT EVEN MAKE SENSE, but then again, im sure a peasant like me, who doesn't wear cool glasses and cardigans and sits with his legs crossed, is meant to get it anyway, huh.....! You lot think you are far superior and "different" blah ablah. Just another bunch of students!! But i wont say these things cause im a decent guy and there probably is place for your music (apart from a wake). P.S. If fivefifteen aint rock, what are they?!Hmmm ?(