betamax

no surprise there

and quite right too

bloody awful racket!

Originally posted by Jonny Lucifer:

Devo, like Kraftwerk, are one of those supposedly legendary-influential bands that I FUCKING hate, probably more so because elitist vinyl jockeys insist that I don't "get them."

Ween - now there's a clever, funny and genuinely brilliant band.

Theres nothing about Devo to ''get''....its just electronic pop ....and Kraftwerk are the same except more instrumental and erm.... German and totally guitarless

and Sparks, Foxx, DAF and The Human League ETC

all just total pop

influential cos they were among the first to do it

you can get most of it at woolworths probably - where all the 'elitist vinyl jockeys' hang out *chortle*

seen em all hanging round the Big W at the weekend

the fucking wanks

synths that sound like synths - yes

synths that sound like trumpets/glockenspeils etc - no

Originally posted by delboy:

now 2004 metallica thats real shite for you....

funny how metal fans always get scared at anything that doesn't involve long hair, greasy skin and leather/denim jackets

dont forget the ''all metal fans are virgins'' theory either sir

and the latent gayness of worshipping hairy old men in tight pants!

even if it's below par for Mozza (which I dont know that it is) it will still be total genius relative to the insipid river of stinking pointless shite thats coming out of the TV and the radio just now

fucking keen, the thrills, coldplay, snow patrol, etc

dont make me spew

Originally posted by New Found Power:

Shite. Utter, utter shite.

says Metallica fan c/o Cornhill, Aberdeen

Originally posted by Pierre Von Mondragon:

If there is a separate category for dub then its gotta be

'King Tubby meets the Rockers Uptown'

that one!

I sometimes just put it on on loop-play for days

i kinda like some of their stuff but not all if you know what i mean

they were good on the tele last week

sometimes they sound like they are trying to hard to be .........urban (a swear word in this house)

current single is wee peach though......jilted john meets parklife

Originally posted by daveofficer:

just found a great parts website http://www.pincottsonline.co.uk/menu.asp?nCategoryId=51&nLevel=1

dunno how their prices compare to other places but they've got a fairly comprehensive stocklist. only place i've found that have graphtech string saddles.

ver good site

danke

its way better than the thrills......a better song than those lot could muster and a fantastic piano which really sets it apart....can see the late 60s beatles/kinks vibe too

does your other stuff have piano in it also?

tis very good indie pop (like the the thills but much less sickly)

but i still reckon the best download on the exile site is le cuts like...it the only one that really gets stuck in me head

Marky has been doing some good stuff lately

the live parts of the real shocks album are getting done there and its sounding dead good so far. Certainly the best drum sound we've got anywhere (including several 'posh' studios down south)

exactly

its probably the only reason Eric keeps him employed

hes actually funding Drummonds single handedly with his chronic quiz machine addiction

imagine if he spent as much time working that sound desk........maybe then he could be slightly better than 'adequate'

*waits for the Christie to attack*

Re: Re: The Lemon Tree "Drinking in the Last Chance Saloon"

Originally posted by soundian:

WTF, can I have 239,000 pounds a year for both the venues I work in (each, oh and a nice little lottery grant), I promise it'll be good.

I even promise not to spend 140,000 by mistake.

dont beleive you

it would all be plugged into a fruit machine within a week never to be seen again

how can they be skint

with the price they charge for a fucking pint !

Originally posted by Mouse:

So you can't programme them at all?

yes but only within the set parameters which to me are generally limiting

but im not being specific about said units in question as I dont know them inside out...they might be fantastic

so who knows

its just that generally, Ive found the Boss/Roland/Yamaha ranges of gear to be quite 1 dimensional and kinda predictable sounding.....you will have invariably heard the same sounds before - usually in a crowded guitar shop on a saturday afternoon....but rarely on a decent record

you could try this site for a few more sonic options www.musictoyz.com

Originally posted by Mouse:

Think I'll check out these Boss pedals in the future (GR-20 or GR-33)...

http://www.roland.co.uk/guitarsynth.htm

i would avoid roland and boss gear unless you want to sound like lots of other people

factory preset hell

its like buying clothes from Debenhams

I sometimes use a Mooger Fooger Ring Modulator on my Guitar at gigs if I can be arsed......its not a synth but merely part of one....real anolog circuits, flashing lights and big knobs etc

It sounds like a thousand pissed off alien skinheads kicking in your front door and usually sends the soundman running to the bogs for a huge poo

Also used a Line 6 synth effect in a studio on the guitar and that was quite good too

.. sometimes I use run a guitar signal into an old semi funkional Moog synth and squelch it beyond recognition or put moody little LFO effects on it......sounds psychedelic

guitars that sound like synths and synths that sound like guitars....is all good

Originally posted by josef k:

It surely did, your'e dreamin' if you think computer world is better though, Showroom Dummies says it all. The Man Machine is incredible too however.

och, they're all bloody fantastic it goes without saying

Man Machines got the best sleeve for sure

and showroom dummies is a truly cool track (and quite scary)

but what swings it for me is the extended album instrumental bit on Computor Love.......total genius (even though its from the 80s and therfor bugger all to do with this thread)

Originally posted by josef k:

None are a scratch on the phenomenal kraftwerk album, Trans-Europe Express!

i reckon computor world is better than Trans Europe - but maybe CW came out the 80s....dunno

*rakes in LP filing system under Electronic/German/Begins with K*

Crossing the Red Sea with the Adverts - The Adverts

Live at the Witch Trials - The Fall

Never Mind The Bollocks - Pistols

Electric Warrior - TRex

Another Music in a Different Kitchen - Buzzcocks

Arrival - ABBA

Killing Joke - Killing Joke

A Trip to Marineville - Swell Maps

V2 - The Vibrators

etc.......

one could not possibly pick just one

and most of the early stuff involving Roxy Music, Bowie, Iggy and Mr Thunders from the first half of the decade

some decade

Originally posted by garygilmore:

Did anyone notice that the lead singer of Pink Grease, who played the Mute night at the Lemon Tree, seemed to have lifted chunks of his between song rapid fire rock & roll "banter" straight from the Dave Dixon catalogue!!

see that banter..... its generic to all 'garage rock' bands apparently (file under: The Hives) and especially ones from scandanavia

they must all have the same 'training video'

its also popular at Butlins on Karaoke nite...many a time have I imagined wee Dave in a red blazer wearing a spinning bow tie (but thats where the fantasy ends...)

but thats the only bad thing about the needles imo.....the banter and the obvious bruce springsteen posturing ....but the music is generally way too groovy to worry about that.....although I still think they were better when they were raw snot nosed punky kids and never said a word to the audience (circa 98/99 i think).....awesome

i once drunkenly told them they should try and go down a more JSBX angular route (when they were in that odd elvis costello phase) and offered to produce them in a such a way for free......but that was a very long time ago....and its too late now cos every garage band in the universe has done it already

pah

i know shitloads about it

but i cant be fucked to explain the whole thing in non specifics cos it would take ages and my information is generally unreliable

but compoota sequencing and recording etc has recently come of age in my opinion....it used to be too expensive and totally unreliable resulting in malevolant violence towards PCs from anyone who tried it

theres a couple of good mags to read that will help you get into le subject

Computor Music, Future Music and Sound on Sound.....all in WH Smiths

they cost about a fiver each so i recommend you slip em inside and NME and and nick em or just stand in the shop for 3 hours reading them all like I do. I even take a notebook sometimes for reference notes/websites etc

It seems complicated to start with but with a bit of research its piss easy

AVOID PC WORLD COMET AND DIXONS

drum machines in 'rock' music are generally shit live, and are only occasionally good on records

but they sound fantastic when used on the right type of song in le right context

and drum machines should sound like drum machines....these fucking drum machines that do a wanky impersonation of a real drummer are giving beatboxes a bad name.....most chart records feature them and they still put a token 'miming' drummer at the back of the stage on TOTP or MTV whatever

they might as well just miss out the whole live experience and e-mail you an MP3

*switches on Roland CR8000 as an example of how a drum machine should sound*

listen

doof - tssssh - rest - doof - doof - tssssh - rest - repeat

gorgeous!

but real drummers (the good ones anyway) are much more entertaining despite the mental problems, latent alchoholism, sex offences, prescription fraud etc

Originally posted by Hog:

Nicest eyes in the music business!!

she must look at you in a different way than she looks at me then

i just see pure evilness!!!

(which is not a bad thing....unless you are a Italian preist in a room overlooking a long flight of steps)

hes one sick puppy and will burn in hell for his sins

etc