betamax

Right, Ive done my letter now......

To any lazy backwater media hack who accidentally reads this,

Please can you write some nice things about my band. And my friends band. We are great you know, and someday very soon we will be famous household names. You can say you discovered us if you like. Me and Johnny (my friend) are part of a scene. You should write about the scene. Its really great. Johnny comes to see my band and offers us 'constructive critisism'. Then I go to see his band and I too, offer 'constructive critisism'. Secretly though, we both really fucking hate each other. Its all so fantastic and surely just as newsworthy as the one eared sheep that was gang raped in Turrif. You see, if we can read about ourselves, it will really help to inflate our egos and make our mums and girlfriends very proud. We are prepared to offer sexual favours, if you do offer to write something nice in your newspaper about us. After all, we are incapable of making any difference on our own and we would much rather you did it for us! Please help, we are desperate. And Im sure your only reader (Mrs Mackenzie of Tillydrone, aged 92) will enjoy reading about our fantastic third rate grotcore, twatpunk, and crotchmetal.

A huge needy thankyou in advance,

A Pissclubber

Aberdeen

oh my god......you moaning twats

''we are great - we deserve coverage - we are so happening - we are the news- they owe it to us to make us famous and worship our talent !!!''

blah blah fucking blah

snooty and slightly desperate sounding wee letters as barely disguised attempts to suck their backwater media dicks ....oh dear

i think im gonna be sick

again

as if anyone witha brain reads it anyway

its main function is cat litter and tramp's blankets

Love In A Void is OK but if we covered a Banshees song it would be Nicotine Stain from The Scream and if we didn't do that it would probaly be Hybrid or Jigsaw Feeling. Im much more interested in the weirder stuff.

anything from the scream would sound good with you lot playing it

ive got a peel session version of Love in a Void that massacres the album version and thats what makes me think it would be a neat live tune so to speak

but all the early banshees stuff is fantastic really.....just a pity they went all goth in the end

i can also kinda visualise a cuts version of some public image tunes funnily enough

but ill stop now, cos youz probably like us and wanna avoid getting sucked into doing covers

agree with everything (espesh the hi velocity bricks) apart from the term 'rock band' for bands like the Cuts

Its a matter of personal definition i suppose

I just wanna hear the Cuts cover 'Love in a Void' by Siouxsie and the Banshees! Not an easy song to do justice to cos its so fantastic, but Lucys got the voice if anyone has

Totally agree. We all come from the punk school of music anyway where simplicity is always better. I personally have no real rock ethos anyway and I am sick of hearing boring trad rock (like since when were Jet the future of music) or having proper gutarists coming up to me telling me that I need to know my scales. So I kind of understand if people who are used to hearing 'proper rock' do not understand what we are about (I am not aiming that at anyone on here btw!). Anyway as for faster songs I agree and hopefully next time we play we will have a couple of faster ones.

Yus

Bands like Jet are the enemy of the future

Just take every tired cliche and regurgitate it without no attempt to actually express anything remotely original or new

SAFE ROCK MUSIC FOR THE SEMI-DETACHED

Easy money....but shit

And Im quite amused that Im not the only one who gets a hard time from 'proper Guitarists'

Fuck scales and widdly shit

The daft thing is, I can actually do them, but just dont cos they sound so already done

If a song sounds right with 3 chords and a two note fill then thats all it needs

as for cuts' date=' i enjoyed them and i think they are a good band, but they will not improve unless they get a drummer who brings dynamics to the band,

they have the potential to be one of aberdeens better bands, IF they get a new drummer.

look at turning 13, the drums absolutely smacked you in the chops with a golf shoe, nice and loud, the way they should be in a rock band![/quote']

totally disagree about the cuts drumming

i thinks it perfect in the context of the dark simmering songs they do and very post-punk sounding....dramatic even

if the cuts were indeed a 'rock' band I would agree but I think they are more than that and slightly more refined than your average 'rock' band

i think avoiding the urge for the drums to rock out often sounds better....less is usually more

the only comment i would make to improve what they do is that they maybe should vary the pace of the set a bit....theres a lot of slow stuff and a couple of faster tunes would balance it

sick!

*******

i missed the wire gig but i imagine the reveiw is an accurate reflection of an aberdeen crowds reaction to anything thats not in the ASDA chart

extremely tres poop

i love him too (as much as its possible to love someone youve never met)

felt the same bout Joey and Dee Dee

feel the gloom.....

How did you end up supporting them? Seems like your sounds will 'clash' quite a lot

Good luck dodging said bottles anyways if it comes to that

My cousin is their drummer basically.....he wants to see us play (hes too busy to come to one of our own gigs), so he convinced Eric at Drummonds to put us on

Otherwise there would be no support band at all as The Clashed dont use them anymore because several have indeed been given a tough ride by the Clashed devotees

So its entirey for me cousins benefit and also his fault when we get filled in.....but hey its family....

But realistically, we do fare ok in front of hard core skinhead or old skool punk audiences......I think they get confused at first and probably do contemplate beating us up but then gradually seem to respect us for having the nerve to go onstage with our camp plastic pop. We could also play much faster than normal to make them think its punk, and it could actually help with our exit plan.

The toughest bastard audiences are the dance crowd.....eurgh.....

Skins Rool OK

Punk rose out of a disaffection with the rock establishment - the rock excesses of folks such as ELP and Yes. However' date=' politics also played a very important part. Just go check out material from folks such as Chelsea, The Clash, Crisis, Menace, Sham 69 etc for proof of this.[/quote']

The equivalent of the giant stagment pond of rock shite that was ELP, Yes, Pink Floyd, Led Zepellin etc for me is all the stuff that in 2004 sounds like its already been done a zillion times. Its the lazy, artless drivel thats everywhere. Including, unfortunately a lot (not all) of the so-called punk thats on offer. Its regressive, and shows no more kick back against the system or convention than Metal does. Which is appalling when you think about it. Punk is reduced to being simlpy another genre classification for the HMV. A huge shame, but true.

Im not saying punk shouldnt or should have politics in it, either...... im saying that true punk (if it exists) should have absolutely no set criteria, agenda or format....it should be out on its own....doing what the fuck it likes....politics or not politics....no convenient pigeonhole for the media or press to target easily

The bands you quoted are all second-wave London punks who in my opinion had missed the point of the purely drugs and art driven total drop-out punk, that originated in NY and Detroit in the early 70s (my type of punk if you like)........I also like all those bands you mention, but I dont see how their political agendas, made them punk in particular, they just happened to be punks with political agendas, but being political was not a pre-requisite for a punk band at all

i dont even think the pistols had a political agenda....they were just pissed off and very articulate with it

what i find strange is that some people decide they like punk music and then because of that, they automatically adopt the politics, just like someone picking a fashionable T shirt because the guy out of his favorite band wears one......then they all get together stylistically and culturally to create a collective identity versus keeping their own.....the un-punkness of it all

interesting to hear different angles/veiws anyway

shocks are go then

we are actually playing the night before in Drummonds supporting The Clashed and no doubt being bottled off by the skinheed contingent

but our gear will still be there from the nite before, so should we get discharged from Casualty in time, we will certainly contribute to said good cause

yup

erm, there is no sunday 29th of september in 2004

is this a bizesque wind up?

You cannot consider punk without also considering its politics.

you are missing the point of punk entirely if you start applying rules to it like that

political manipulators hi jacked punk in the late seventies as a way of gaining influence with the nations youth ....everyone from crass to billy fucking bragg

since the bandwagon has got steadily more away from the whole point

with people saying you must beleive in either this or that or sound like this or that to be punk....in other words its as bad for stereotyping and conforming as all the other shitty genres ....metal, emo etc

punk is not neccessarily anything to do with politics

its all about individualism

and its totally dead

other than the lazy warped mis used bastardised interpretation that gets used to define anything thats heavy and cooler than metal and faster than grunge

As for Thee Execution Of's sound' date=' Phoebe's vocals were a little all over the place - this was mainly due to a wee monitor problem apparently. To hear the full effect of their sooper-dooper sound I suggest you look out for their debut single which will be out on Planet Boo soon.

[/quote']

whatever was missing from her vocal sound (not much really) was easily made up for by her exquisite display of mad bopping and shimmying.....

if you want a band that is pushing boundaries check out Fig 4.0 (i know i mention them all the time) but they really are the best band in the world today' date=' doing something totally original...

[url']http://www.bombedout.com/downloads/mp3/fig._4.0_-_give_up_your_day_job.mp3

http://www.bombedout.com/downloads/mp3/fig._4.0_-_red_ash.mp3

tres good music but to be fair theres plenty of punk b sides from 76 and 77 that sound almost identical bar the modern sounding 'metallish' guitar breakdown bits

no boundaries being pushed that i can hear - even though ill be playing all morning (cheers)

possibly the only band that has a punk sensibility and pushes musical boundaries i can think of at the moment would be Melt Banana......but they dont go on about punk this and punk that....they just are what they are.....which to me is more punk that most punks.....if you see what I mean

and punk is not political....neither conservative nor socialist

political activists adopted punk for their own gain in the late seventies and laid claim to it in some kind of ivory tower mentality....people like crass etc....punk is/was open and individual and should be too fucking out there to be paraded under ANY single banner, be it social / political / whatever

imo*

*punk is/was also about being an individual

not that i would claim to be a punk, punk is dead

the 'underground' so called DIY punk scene is the opposite of punk

punk meant doing something new, pushing boundaries - not rehashing riffs and pseudo angry lyrics that have been played a zillion times by a zillion bands in the last 30 years

you people are what punk is actually against

even though i like the sound of a lot of the current DIY 'so-called punk' (everything Dave Rowlands turns his hand too sounds great).......but even though the music is good Im able to differentiate between that and what was punk in the real sense...cos its certainly not original or pushing any boundaries and I doubt it intends to

unfortunately no matter how much we wish it did.......punk in the sense of originality does not exist anymore

DIY means 'organised' NOT 'punk'

i suppose this starting to be another 'what is punk' thread....and that is probably because the word punk has been bastardised and so many people are ready to use it to describe something that it's not

punk is irrelevant now

shit like this proves it beyond doubt

the music and ideology has been hi jacked and mis used / abused by wankers

so punk is dead

pointless genre

someone should invent a new one

hooray tra la la la

i think that's tonite qui/non/delete

*rummages for body glitter*

looking forward to The Execution of.....a lot

Bigger badder beats that go dysfunktional occasionally as opposed to the regular breakdown stylee

Slightly less busy bass synths....more empasis on the gaps in the sequences

Less synth sounds from the early 90s

The progressions are great and the second half of 3034 is super cheeze on toast!!!!

Look less happy in your photo (that really freaked me out....didnt recognise you )

one of the singers yup

im the one who messes about with a guitar

without a doubt >

DemonFartGas

Belching Napalm in Gods Face

Regurgitated Anus

Total Conformance to Non Comformity

Rebellion by Numbers

...are all going to be huge and completely fantastic and fill Pittodrie

can't wait!

Originally posted by andylemontree:

The reason The Lemon Tree is publicly funded is to support worthwhile activities that cannot be expected to pay for themselves - drama classes, special needs theatre, free music performances, kids workshops and theatre and certain specialist areas of music such as jazz and world music etc.

worthy things for sure (apart from jazz...) and tres worthy of public funding imo - unlike most other things that are publicly funded (coppers, traffic wardens, councils etc)

still dont know why its such a pricey place to drink ?(

Originally posted by Aileen:

reminded me of a cross between something from return to the forbidden planet and the rocky horror show (which is a good thing)

yay! ...someones spotted the 'stage musical' - ness in the way we konstruct songs.....not many people notice that, but its deliberate....lots of double choruses and micro drama bits all just running together like a mini musical

we would have had a filmshow too to complement proceedings but technikal hitches got in le way

Originally posted by iain44s:

ive got a novation k station. its in the same price range as the microkorg and its rather amazing...has full size keys too which is one of the reasons i didnt get a microkorg.

yup

k station is a much better synth than the micro korg

micro korg is a fairly limited synth......generic-ish sounds, limited programming, fairly crap vocoder (but all vocoders are crap and over used) but its got a good appregiator

i had one for a few months and put it on ebay as soon as i sussed its limitations and got my money back basically

seems to a popular item though and tres good fer beginners kinda thing who dont wanna get bogged down witha load of programming