Delly

i suppose the legend himself does deserve some love after i met his missus out on the piss the other night...

"do you know who i am!?"

"yes"

OH shit did I speak to you, really can't remember that one - think I said that to like a MILLION people! shows how much I get out on my own tho

twas good!

23 today you are SO old!!

Happy Birthday Sweety

think you have to be 16 to be on myspace so was thinking putting that date on may be a problem

Have you been along to the assemblies etc. to see the extent of this "preaching"? I'm not criticising here' date=' it just surprises me that the contents of assemblies could be so extreme as to cause you offense.

Perhaps you need to think about your approach to the subject in the home and the ways in which they are discussed, as well as approaching the school. I believe that morality and religion are very closely linked and that appealing to this link can be a powerful way of instilling an understanding of the idea of "right" and "wrong" in children, which is why it's there.

I believe that removing children entirely from such things can be dangerous. They will undoubtedly miss out on things which their classmates are a part of and young children can often be bad for attaching a stigma to these kids because they're different from the norm. You should probably exhaust all other possibilities before you decide on this method.

I also think it's worth remembering that atheism comes not from a lack of understanding of what is there, but for a lack of belief, so sheltering children from religions wherever they might be presented, could be counter productive.

This kind of discussion brings to the fore just how much our country is rooted in one specific religion. I wonder if less-religous families ever have the same kind of discussions in countries where the schools preach hardline islam, or any other religion.

Spoons

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I agree, you are right I have to think about how I approach things at home and if he asks questiong I make sure I can back them up. I have met with the teacher and at that point decided not to removed him from anything, I do thinkl I shouldn't have to deal with this because I feel there is no place for it in schools. end of

That is now all in the shitter as you may know' date=' so blaming schools for not being able to compensate everyone's individual little quirk is a little unfair (in this context, with regards to a five year old, I think 'atheism' is a tad petty, I'm sure even trying to explain this to your son, Delly, would unneccesarily confuse the shit out of him)..[/quote']

Oh right I should not confuse my son with choice instead let a school system preech to him hmm wise up religion is far more confusing, that is why school is not the place for it (although RME is fine with me apart from how it is taught by a small amount of teachers) There are schools where religion is a major part of their education they are the ones where parents choose to put their kids.

weird how you think I shouldn't confuse my kid with my belief, considering my main reason for disliking the schools approach to religion is in some asspects are unfair. he is far to young to be preached to. I do not try to push mine on to him. So see no reason for anyone else doing the same I only want to give him a balanced view of all religions so he can make up his own mind. Also I have not yet removed my son from any part of his school day!

with your views on this you really should become a teacher.

You can't customise your kid's education. This is the state school system' date=' get what your given etc (which is, 99.9% of the time, perfectly adequate.)[/quote']

Wise up! Of course I can ensure my son has a quality education and has a parent who shows there support.

It is very easy to customise your kids education I taught my son to read and write when he was 3 and they do their best for him so they do cater for his needs. They have changed a few things to accomodate him so things can be customised(maybe not by me but by the teacher assessing individule needs. if you don't ask you don't get. I am happy with my kids education mainly because I am happy to do what they can't or won't. DO not think badly of me for being a concerned/interested parent go pick on the ones who couldn't give a rats ass, at least when I have an issue I am polite, I have seen parents toally over react and intimidate teachers where as I would rather sit down and talk things over!

My mother has been a primary school teacher for years.

Now I see why you have said what you have said - I have been a mother for years I know what I want for my kids! oH and yes I do have problems with my spelling you of all people should have an understanging of abilities. I take interest in what my child learns about because I think I got such a shitty education and want to make things better for him.

sorry didn't realise it was assembly.

i still would hardly call it brainwashing. most kids don't pay any attention in assembly anyway and spend half their time flicking the v's at their mates and poking the kid in front of them.

My son is in p1 and takes it all in! I dislike the guilt that it puts on kids

teachers get enough hassle as it is without people hassling them about RE. hassle the education department not the teachers. also it's not just christianity they get taught about but as far as i remember you learn about ALL religion in RE and i did it years ago. i'm sure it's even less biased towards christianity now. it's not like they're brainwashing the kids is it' date=' i know plenty of atheists who did RE but still don't follow the teachings of a religion. give kids the benefit of the doubt and let them make up their own minds and let teachers get on with their already overstressed and overworked jobs.[/quote']

yeah it ain't really about RME but I do have issues with it too, I have a copy of the RME curriculum and its called Christanity and other world religions. also friends who are teacher"

but mostly I am pissed at christian head teachers brining their beliefs into their assemblies

On one hand there are people whining on about political corretness gone crazy' date=' then this:

I hope you understand how much of a pain in the arse you are being with your bullshit, see-through 'atheism.' Denying him moral lessons and a chance to ask the minister ridiculous questions. 'Fraid he might come home with a bit of insight? Or expect he might start wearing a skull cap..[/quote']

no! You know nothing about me or my reasons for this and anyway if you read on my kid IS getting the shitty moral stories which I see no benifit.

I want my child to have a balanced veiw on religion so that he can choose for himself, thats where the inclass RME side should come in. Where he can learn about ALL religion and not have to be preeched to at assemblies

'Parents giving teachers a hard time' is not a positive thing. Whatever you think' date=' you (Cloud) do not know best when it comes to the primary school education system. You post here, thinking yourself clever, thinking you make valid points, when you in fact you speak the biggest mountain of shite ever.[/quote']

right giving them a hard time maybe a bad way to put it, but letting them understand what you want for your children is the best thing posible at lease it shows you care and are interested in your kids education. I want what is best for my children I want them to go to school to learn. I don't want them preached to therefore I will let the teaching staff know how I feel.

there are plenty of parents at my kids school not happy with bits here and there and religion is one of them - no one has the guts to say ANYTHING so maybe letting teachers know how they feel is a positive thing.

Assemblies at Westhill = brainwashing sessions conducted by Thompson and Innes.

I agree though' date=' I don't think there's a place for religion in schools. I think it should be left up to the discretion of the parents - but made opt in as opposed to opt out. The thing that irritates me is that kids are pushed so hard, yet they have to waste time listening to someone drone on in an assembly. What's the point? If there's a message to be said, say it in PSE, don't bother wasting valuable time with these things.[/quote']

This is just reminding me of how bad the teacher and head made me feel when I asked for my son to be taken out of any religous preaching type assemblies. Now I think tomorrow I will ask for him not to take part in the praying( if I was to take him away from assemblies he would miss out on alot like the kids behaviour awards)

When I tried to remove my son from such things I was made to feel like the worst mother in the world, and that I was teaching my son religious hatred when actually I just don't want my child preached too from ANY religion. There is no need for preaching in schools yes I think children need to learn about many cultures and religions but not one more then another

One thing that I do find offensive is how schools deal with religion. The curriculum is set out like Christianity and other world religions (or something like that).

Why are schools who have Christian head teachers given Christian moral stories at assemblies being atheist I find it wrong that I have to take him out of such things (the prayer at the end is the lords prayer) he then misses out on this and his friends would notice or so the teacher said as to make me feel guilty and so that I would not cause any extra staffing issues. Also when learning about religions the teacher (older ones) set it out like them and us for example we beleive in Christmas but they...

If a Muslim head teacher was to come in and start doing such things I am sure something would be said.

being offended by piggy banks offends me - what happens there then?

most jokes are aimed at other people be it body image, age, sex, race, medical conditions or whatever

getting in to radio broadcasting has made me realise some of my every day laungage offends certain groups of people or it is not "pc" I find it hard to keep up with it like my kids have ba ba rainbow sheep book.

I finding it hard to keep all of the people happy all of the time.

Racism sucks there is no need for it - I remember a conversation with a girl at college who got frustrated at someone in the class who was having difficaulty understanding the tuter, she then on went on to say "I am not racist but if they come into our country they should learn our laungage" The guy had joined an English class!!.

right! Keilan had plenty to eat in the house he was just being lazy! I had lots of nice pizza when I left him to fend for himself.

Because us blokes need looking after. That's why we go to work so we don't have to shop as well.

Well if thats the case I go to work therefore I don't do the shopping!! cool

Missus fucked off and left you to fend for yourself without stocking up the fridge?

Change the locks mate and then change yer missus.

He is a grown up why can he not do his own shopping! His missus ain't his mother so I am sure he is very able to fend for himself!!!

Joe Mangle?

second it is then. deadenstereo onstage at 9.30ish. which probably means tenessee kait going on 3rd around 10.30ish i suppose. timings are approximate

which leave identity and redpath to fight it out for first and last i imagine....

wooohooo looking at the times I could possibly be home in time to tenessee Kait!

Load of the OLDIES wow!

oh I can't miss it!! I will be there in spirit (vodka mostly)

hahaha sorry there was a stinky nappy on the loose¬!