spellchecker Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 slackware was the second one i used, after redhat (4) in 1997. slackware used to actually be a lot more user friendly than redhat at the time.Gentoo is great though - it's a lot like slackware, it just has brilliant package management (based on the bsd ports system) and builds everything from source. it's not so great if you are not on broadband though. the important thing is that Gentoo automates the whole software download and build process, meaning that getting the latest update of audio software isn't a big pain in the rumplestiltskin. With Gentoo you can take as much or as little as you like, which is what really appeals to me about it. I have a couple of servers dotted around places that are running Gentoo, and it makes them so much easier to remotely administer and update. It's the way forward.I find Slackware and a lot of its users to be quite a purist bunch, not elitist but definitely minimalist techs. Gentoo users by generalised profile are just people who want their machine to do exactly what they want with the best compromise of usability alongside performance. Sure, you can run kde 3.2.2 or gnome 2.6 and all the toys with it, but you can also run a minimalist install using blackbox or windomaker (which i use for audio stuff). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stripey Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 slackware was the second one i used' date=' after redhat (4) in 1997. slackware used to actually be a lot more user friendly than redhat at the time.Gentoo is great though - it's a lot like slackware, it just has brilliant package management (based on the bsd ports system) and builds everything from source. it's not so great if you are not on broadband though. the important thing is that Gentoo automates the whole software download and build process, meaning that getting the latest update of audio software isn't a big pain in the rumplestiltskin. With Gentoo you can take as much or as little as you like, which is what really appeals to me about it. I have a couple of servers dotted around places that are running Gentoo, and it makes them so much easier to remotely administer and update. It's the way forward.I find Slackware and a lot of its users to be quite a purist bunch, not elitist but definitely minimalist techs. Gentoo users by generalised profile are just people who want their machine to do exactly what they want with the best compromise of usability alongside performance. Sure, you can run kde 3.2.2 or gnome 2.6 and all the toys with it, but you can also run a minimalist install using blackbox or windomaker (which i use for audio stuff).[/quote']Yeah slackware appeals to me because it is a purists distro and doesnt try to hold your hand, I'm used to stuff like Solaris and TRU64/DGuX/HPUX all of which I run at home aswell... I'm not a big fan of package management tools (although slackware now has one). I'm quite happy downloading and compiling source (mostly cuz it gives me a chance to look over the code for vulnerabilities, I never use binary distributions of packages). I'm a big fan of afterstep too, its the only WM ive used for years, and the only things you see on my desktop are loads of transparent xterms, xmms, and mozilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Well, at least with Gentoo you can review the source before/as/after it is built; the problem with compiling everything individually outwith the package management system (purely in relation to the audio software spoken about) is that they have a lot of specific options to enable that aren't default, i.e. JACK, ALSA, realtime support, etc.I'm a big fan of WindowMaker too (it's GnuStep at least...) , I've started using it at work now because KDE's xinerama support is all over the shop. And it always makes me laugh when people use my computer not realising the sloppy focus settings, and say, "What the fuck's wrong with your mouse?"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 ok, here's part of that track i've been doing in linux:http://affronted.org/cg.mp3in case anyone is interested, this is what the track contains:drums - from the drum machine, hydrogenpiano - from a softsynth (qsynth) using a soundfont fileguitar - live, through wah-wah, then big muff, then desk for signal boostingsynth - from zynaddsubfx (either default presets or a downloaded one)synth verse - from a softsynth (qsynth) through a wah-wah pedalthe tracks were each recorded live, track at a time, except for the drums. there's a little delay on both the piano and the guitar, and also eq on both; boosting highs on the piano, cutting highs on the guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stripey Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Suprisingly impressive results there! (and a neat tune aswell) What app are you using to put it all together?ok' date=' here's part of that track i've been doing in linux:[url']http://affronted.org/cg.mp3in case anyone is interested, this is what the track contains:drums - from the drum machine, hydrogenpiano - from a softsynth (qsynth) using a soundfont fileguitar - live, through wah-wah, then big muff, then desk for signal boostingsynth - from zynaddsubfx (either default presets or a downloaded one)synth verse - from a softsynth (qsynth) through a wah-wah pedalthe tracks were each recorded live, track at a time, except for the drums. there's a little delay on both the piano and the guitar, and also eq on both; boosting highs on the piano, cutting highs on the guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Suprisingly impressive results there! (and a neat tune aswell) What app are you using to put it all together?alas' date=' i can't take credit for the tune, it's a cover of 'cornflake girl' by tori amos that i'm working on.it was all recorded in ardour ([url']www.ardour.org). it's the multi tracking HDR program that is quite pro-tools alike. the hardest thing about audio in linux is getting started and working it all out. so much of it isn't explained for novices, like a crucial program called alsa-patch-bay that links midi devices to programs that take midi input. it's very simple and incredibly efficient to use once you do know what you're doing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stripey Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 alas' date=' i can't take credit for the tune, it's a cover of 'cornflake girl' by tori amos that i'm working on.it was all recorded in ardour ([url']www.ardour.org). it's the multi tracking HDR program that is quite pro-tools alike. the hardest thing about audio in linux is getting started and working it all out. so much of it isn't explained for novices, like a crucial program called alsa-patch-bay that links midi devices to programs that take midi input. it's very simple and incredibly efficient to use once you do know what you're doing though.To be honest I won't be migrating to linux for audio until there is a port of fruity/cubase/logic to linux and full native vst support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 that's understandable, because it's certainly difficult to get started with. i'm just glad i've worked out how to use all this stuff so that i don't need windows anymore. no more dual booting, no more activation woes, blah blah. must get round to reclaiming those unused fat32 partitions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Yeah the way you described it sounds quite modular' date=' which is something i've always liked about linux. A really neat amp modelling vst is Amplitube [url']http://www.amplitube.comThey also do a special zero (well close to zero) latency version for live use.just wanted to add, i tested amplitube with ardour this morning, and it works. had a bit of trouble twisting knobs, but all the presets load correctly.edit: oh my god, i was just being a nob myself, the knobs work perfectly, and oh my god, this plugin is amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprinted Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 amplitube is rather good aint it oh yeah - since you've got that I'd recommend you get the T-Racks Mastering Tool from IKM as well - from what I've been able to do with it (and by my own admittance that aint much as i'm just learning this stuff) it sounds very impressive!M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 it's amazing. i thought it was quite good, and then i found those little fx and stomp buttons, and now i think it's truly cool as. some of the sounds that are coming out of this thing are truly amazing, it's the best recording tool i've obtained so far. makes me think of cancelling my order on the the pod pro rack...i did notice the t-rack thing on the amplitube website - what exactly does it do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stripey Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 it's amazing. i thought it was quite good' date=' and then i found those little fx and stomp buttons, and now i think it's truly cool as. some of the sounds that are coming out of this thing are truly amazing, it's the best recording tool i've obtained so far. makes me think of cancelling my order on the the pod pro rack...i did notice the t-rack thing on the amplitube website - what exactly does it do?[/quote'] 6 band parametric EQ Tube modeled Compressor/Leveler MultiBand Limiter Soft-ClipperAlternatives are Yamaha Final Master and Akai Quadcomp, I prefer the Yamaha.Have you got any other VST's working under linux? PM me if you want some to test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 i tried the Warp VST but the UI never got drawn, so i suppose it does not work. i have to say, the amplitube one is a godsend at the moment.The LADSPA plugins that exist (freely) are actually remarkably good, for example the dynamics, EQ, reverb, pitchshift, etc. What was missing was something like amplitube.I don't really need anything else now VST wise, but if there's any VSTs that you want tested to see if they work in Linux then I'll happily test them for you. Infact, just give me the names and I can try to download them. Purely for evaluation purposes, naturally.edit: bugger me, the warp vst is even working now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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