Ian

i really want a crunchie now........... can't remember the last time i had one of those!!!

its friday we shall rejoice

Might be opening a can of worms here' date=' but which bands actually sell enough records / play enough gigs outwith Aberdeen to actually warrant a full corporate identity / Flash powered all singing all dancing website?

If you've got a mate who can do - great, buy him a few pints in the pub and you have a website and a logo or whatever. If you can do it yourself, great. You're not wasting any cash.

But I'm afraid [i']most local bands have neither a) The money or b) the audience to warrant a message board or t - shirts.

I work in graphic design and know that a good strong identity is important, but come on, it doesn't matter if you have a Damien Hirst original advertising your gig - It's still a gig at the Tunnels on a Wednesday night or whatever - An A4 photocopied flyer will get in the same amount of punters.

I'm not being negative, just realistic. There are better ways to spend the band's float. Like petrol to drive to other places to play or rehersal time.

If your bands music is good enough to get signed the record company will pay loads for a good identity and website. It's secondary to the music, though. If you have no tunes it doesn't matter if you have the best logo, website and flyers - the music will still be shit.

I'm not a big follower of the Fugazi way of doing things or anything, by the way

yeah man i think what you've said is the general consensus.......... it just seems a shame really.

A better flier isn't going to make the bands any less shit though!

yeah as i said, but if you are a serious band and believe in your music, you'll want not only to sound professional but come accross as a professional act with the relevant promo material that goes along with it............ you don't see.............. er, the rolling stones handing out shitty little flyers in the street, altho they have the money to spend on big expensive marketing "PLOYS" the little things make the differance in smaller bands aswell.

The likes of the little kicks, a band who appear to be doing well for themselves, have promo material that looks professional, but i bet they don't go to an expensive design studio to get the work done.

Right' date=' whats the scoop?

Basically i'm here as a freelance graphic designer to offer you my design services. I know there are a lot of up and coming bands in aberdeen, and am also aware that some of you may require websites etc to promote yourselves. I'm here to offer a very varied selection of services,

but the main services are as follows..

[b']Web Design

Design and creation of website.

Including,

- Logo design (if required)

- Layout design

- Colour scheme

- News script setup

- Message board/Forum setup (if required)

- Additional extras available on request..

Graphic Design

Various different options.

Including,

- Logo design

- Album covers

- T-shirts

- Merchandise

- Flyers

- Posters

- Signatures

- Avatars

- And the rest..

Basically, if you want anything designed just give me a shout. Very reasonable and realistic prices. If you wish to see some examples of work, please let me know.

Thanks

www.routeseven.co.uk

Have you been a freelancer long?

if not i suggest u don't just stick to bands, try the obvious ones like clubs, pubs, restaurants etc. get your name on some freelance forums, and put your cv into any and all local design/media/IT companys advertising your services but try and leave an impression and give a follow up call. seriously theres loads and alot of them often look for freelancers when work loads get a bit heavy.

Freelancing can be very financially rewarding if you can be assed to go out and chase the work, although experience is a must!

although if you've been a freelancer for a while.......... i probably just sounded patronising as fuck.... sorry!

i plan on going full time freelance once i get a few more years experiance and give up my dream of being a big posing rock star :L

anyway good luck.

Yeah i gave this a go a few months ago with not much interest (i have been a qualified graphic designer with working experiance for 2 years) which is a shame really, no one really seems that interested evan tho i personally think it shows a degree of professionalism in a band ( outwith the music ) the problem is that more and more people study graphic design or some creative craft, and with music being a creative industry ( even for the smallest bands ) they can all get a friend of a friend etc. to create some cool logo, illustartion, website etc for next to nothing........ for a serious freelance graphic designer it seems very hard to offer a better rate then the bands can get through their own contacts.

i now basically just do freelance work for bands etc. when asked, so i can just get a bit extra beer money and stick to my day job for the .. erm. cough!! "real money"

Just my thoughts

Ta

great, thanks for feedback, anyone got asny ideas on good books etc.. ill give the computer music ago, computer arts always tends to be really helpful for me so all stick with a tried and trusted publisher its more picking up on the teory of it all aswell and understanding technical terms and differnaces between using mic a to mic b and input, output levels also.

seems alot to learn without getting my ass to college and studying it but ill give it ago.

cheers for all help

Hello i don't really know too much about soundcards or home recording, but i am looking to buy one at a reasonable price, so if anyone has a spare one to sell give me a pm

alternativly if anyone can recommenda descent soundcard or advice on what to look for / avoid in soundcards, it wid be affa much appreciated.

and one final thing can anyone recommend some good books etc for getting into home recording, or creating electronic music via synths sampling and sequencing as i have no idea where to start with this especially when it comes to playing live but find it really interesting.

Great

ta

Shamefull,........... i know, but we are still looking.

just a wee bump

New melodic, indie, scuzzy, pop, punk band in aberdeen need a new drummer urgently !!!pretty much what it says on the tin. We are all around 20ish of age, don't care if your a boy or girl preferably 18 or above, singin capabilities are an advantage but by no means a must.

influences = Lou Reed, Iggy Pop, Bob Dylan, The Beatles, The Kinks, The Clash, The Doors, The Who, Velvet Underground, The Cure, The Ramones, Social Distortion, Rancid, Nirvana, Idlewild, Oasis, The Libertines, Blur + Graham Coxon, The Grim Northern Social, Biffy Clyro, Louie Armstrong, Ottis Reading..................... to name a few

Pm me if interested or email: hellsdiscoband@btinternet.com

we are also still lookin for a keys / synth techy type person if anyones interested

Cheers

ace gig

thats the one, i noticed scenes in the trailor that look like that,

chuck the guy on a blue screen and put in some dodgy fire or something

anyone remember the game show that used to be on after school about 10 years ago or so, when the person has to put on a viking like helmut and their teams mates have to guide him through this virtual world with goblins and creatures ............................. it sort of reminds me on that.

thats shot like a cheap soft porn.

:puke: White pudding - if i had too

skis or snowboards ?

have'nt listened properly yet, but that song "doctors and dealers", i think, is quality

It's not all politics. Blues is about the shit of life in general. A good song is a good song no matter what ...can't say that a song has actually changed anything.

i agree a good songs a good song, but politics and music is a touchy one, if pulled off correctly, can work really well..................

but theres nothing worse than a band trying to be punk by singing about politics and not having a clue

i personally could nt pull it off because if it ever came to dabate i would just be wiped flat out

Pan's Labyrinth ???

is this related at all to the labyrinth with bowie

or peter pan

or am i an idiot and its completely non related

The Seahorses, 1997, music hall, i had just turned 14 and third eye blind were the support

i have no speakers on my machine so i can't listen yet, but i keep imagining a cross between kt tunstall and avril lavigne.

good luck to her alright would be cool to see some recognition come to this corner for a change.

Anyone know what other bands have made a success in the industry from this area, i know the idlewild drummers from macduff and driveblind have been in america for years anyone else made a splash as in radio play MTV etc.

Apparently shes now signed to SONY BMG, not bad for a wee girl from banff.

i have'nt actually heard anything of her yet but will be interesting to see if record big wigs will start taking notice of smaller places from the success of kt tunstall, sandi thom etc

..........any thoughts?

.........anyone know her when she played around aberdeen?

Also........ if theres a demand for regular or bulk work i.e promoters venues who hold regular club nights or bands / managers who need the full sha-bang press packs,

i will also give discounted rates

cool send me a pm, and we can sort out what your after

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have a look here ill get some more up which are music related