with compliments

everyone, forget i even posted anything. it's obvious your either not ready or feel threatened by us and thats not what we're trying to achieve. you's have ruined it for everyone who may have wanted in. you got us agrovated by slandering us and ross is probably better friends with us than you, stuartmaxwell, he'll back us up, don't dare drag his name down with judgemental people like you. i would like some one to put an end to this thread.

cf

jesus. you need to get a grip and take a deep breath before bashing those keys. you're doing yourselves no favours by launching illadvised tirades at people for nothing more than a few fairly innocuous comments. all you're going to do is put people off. yea it sounds like it might be interesting but don't be so fucking precious about your 'project'. i thought it was meant to be a bit of a laugh and some fun?

anyhoo' date=' i've not been critical at all in this thread until now and last time i checked this is a public forum so anyone can post whatever they feel like so long as it's relevant to the post. if that's just someones opinion on what you're doing then you still have to put up with it and take it on the chin like a fucking man.

good luck and everything but chill out.[/quote']

as long as its relevent to the post

Thanks for all the atention, sorry if things got a bit heated back there, perhaps we were abit too over-sensitive, however we appreciate you all taking the time to view and post your opinions.

cheers

thats just fucking rude, if you don't like it fair enough, no music can be to everyones taste, but if it means nothing to you, why take the time and effort to post an insult? obviously you get your kicks out of insulting people from behind your monitor, tough guy, well enjoy it, now we know, we can take your opinions with a pinch of salt and shove it up your arse (cyber arse that is). Goodnight little 14 year old.

i had to cut the whole thing. None of it was neither nice or well said.

remember matthew is only 1/15 of our group. we aren't all as sensitive or verbally agressive (when drunk.) You should know not to judge people on what you first see ( or hear) about us. especially since all of it is rumour and not nessicarily true.

edited by charis

just to say' date=' you don't need to be in a band to have an opinion. it's a pretty lame thing to say "so let's see your band then" when someone criticises something.[/quote']

craig b suggested that we were all unskillful musicians which is slander not critisism.

by no means did we say you have to be in a band to have an opinion, but for someone to criticise a still developing project who posted to find any interseted parties is pretty rude by any accounts. We were only looking for musicians interested in doing something new and exciting. we are infact all experienced musicians and this is no ones first attempt at starting a "band", we do however want to involved people who are not experienced. we didn't expect to be slandered before we even recorded anything or infact played anywhere, we were only trying to let you in on a good thing. sorry you felt that way about us.

edited by cf(matthew gets quite sensitive when he is drunk)

also there is a few people who will be helping proceedings along. Myself, matthew, ewen and ross at the moment are writing, pushing it out and getting it heard and thats not to mention stuart whos doing a lot of promotion for us. But no one person makes decisions. If we were to have one person, then that builds destructive ego, which inevitably, will ruin bands. The idea is to let musicians have a place to expand their musical potential. What fun is it if you think you can't have more than one bassist in the group? can denying yourself a whole range of musical possibilities really be creativly healthy? let us know what your into and where you want to take your musical abilities.

Ps thank's for the advice concerning our sense of humour but we posted this thread in search of people interested in our ideas not people who want to bring us all down. if it was a joke, it was neither funny or informative. But one can't say no to a bit of controversy, especially since we haven't even had our first meeting.

CF

you can contact us at

www.myspace.com/withourcompliments

lo_bob_lo@hotmail.co.uk this is my msn too, if you want to bounce ideas of us just add me

I don't think I'd want to be in a collective where there was no quality control coming from my bandmates.

edit: Sorry' date=' slightly critical. I gotta say though, the idea sounds generally very awesome. Best of luck! Although a bit of a Zappa figure in the proceedings could keep things moving a little more efficiently.[/quote']

Criticality is fine, it can be important for someone to take lead, but I fear you misinterpereted(?) what I was saying. I meant that for people outside of the project to jump in and criticise without first making any attempt at contact to understand what the thing is about. Of course "quality control" is important, but no one person within any group should be responsible for it. And basically it will be a hard project anyway, cos the amount of folks alrady interested are gonna have to be prepared for a bit of give and take.

CHeers though, Matt

A project has too many musicians' date=' most with no actual talent. Similar to a 'collective'.[/quote']

Once we have music uploaded you can post as many comments about our abilities as you like, until then we would appreciate it if people could be a little less negative.

Anyway, Newbeatz, in answer to your question, we are currently in the process of writing/development, but once we have any tracks recorded then we will upload them onto our Myspace.

And our project, Dave Officer, is a collaboration between currently gigging bands, those in development, accomplished musicians and most importantly, the audience.

Generally speaking a band is comprised of a core group of musicians who play together under a collective name (of course with the occasional line-up changes) whereas our project is of a changing disposition, any two songs might contain completely different musicians, there is no attempt to retain an individual lead over proceedings.

Thanks for your interest

With Compliments, Matt

thats strange because everytime i log on here i get this horrible feeling in my gut, like impending doom. I only registered to get the project heard so hopefully it will pass.

it's the projects phone number not mine. See thats how serious we take it. we even have a seperate number for the project. But also good point, keep safe people

thats good. I get a lot of shit on forums for speaking my mind. Makes me a target for the not-so-self-assured and low-self-estemed. anyway, good to see your interested!

no no that would be my careless typing:

www.myspace.com/withourcompliments

no question mark. i hope that wasn't sarcasm sweetheart.

this project is for those who feel jaded by the current music trends, those of you who love music, those who don't want to see music classified by one tiny lyric or by the clothes that they wear, those who want to try something different to what they usually do. It's not only about making music though, it's about letting it be what it's meant to be. It's not meant to be about the clothes you wear or the bands you like or the kind of instrument you own or how well you play. It's meant to be about good times, making your voice heard and letting everybody join in. I'll cut and paste the rest from our myspace cause i've typed basically the same thing thrice today.

from our myspace:

We aren't just making music and hoping people like us. We are going,out there and MAKING people listen to us. I'm planning guerrila gigs, mass jamming, a massive campaign, along with just normal gigs too otherwise were not going to be taken seriously. i want to be able to have a stage packed to the brim with people all having fun and jumping around. This whole projects about showing up bands that take themselves and others around them too seriously and condemning all others who confine themselves to a genre or stereotype. We're liberating the music. I want to put the idea into peoples heads that music doesnt have to just be about being into good music. It doesn't have to be about sounding like you heroes, it doesn't have to be about looking cool, sounding, being or living cool, it can be just about having a good time. Music doesn't have to be taken seriously. This bands aim is to bring musicians from all over the place, established bands, beginners, young folk, young adults, old rockers, dj's, guitarists, saxophonists, pianists triangletrons, EVERYONE, to make good music, good time music, and be an ever changing supply of exciting new sounds, old, classic, retro sounds, just good f***ing music. that envolves everyone. we are not elitist! we will take you on board if all you can do is jump up and down. in fact be our friend and it gives you the right to come on stage with us and jump around like an idiot as long as your diggin the music thats all that matters. just send us a friend request and we'll let you know whats happening and get you involved. even if you just support the cause add us and we'll keep you updated on all the new developments. pass it on.

contact details : lo_bob_lo@hotmail.co.uk

www.myspace.com/withourcompliments