MYLER

I made a right cunt of this, its on the SUNDAY 4TH OF FEBRUARYnot 31st of january as i previously put.

STILL, does anyone know anything about the show?

anyone going?

Anyone know about this this show?

I dont see it listed on the gigs section, but Im sure its jamesy RNR thats doing the show.

Has it been advertised at all?

Having trouble finding info on it!

Looking for a driver/van from April 1st - April 8th....

For little UK jaunt.

Anyone interest or have any information I'd be mega appreciative.

Let me know.

- Chris

http://www.myspace.com/bymyhands

bymyhandshc@hotmail.com

I'm pretty much with Maxwell, as you've probably read.

It's cool to see more and more people coming on saying they had a good time, and saying that they seen nothing untoward, cause neither did I, or anyone I've asked personally about it.

Fun night.

From what I saw the crowd seemed fairly good natured. I was only down the front for Terror but I didn't see anyone getting hurt or acting overly aggressive. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention.

Which is what I say.

All in all from my view it was pretty harmonious

There was punks/metallers/hardcore kids all having a good time, and showing a bit of respect for one and other.

Anyone that went down was picked up and everyone carried on.

I wouldn't've said you guys were Neds' date=' and yeah you probably are all 'nice guys' most people are when you actually take the time to get to know them to be honest.

To be perfectly honest though i thought you guys were pretty shit BUT there were a few interesting riffs etc

I'm glad you guys play music for yourselves and because you like the style of music you play, i respect you for that. I just didn't like it. [/quote']

Which, like I already said, is absolutely fair game.

I've no problem whatsoever with folks not liking us. Its the way it goes.

The problem I had is the barrage or abuse, folk being called neds and shit like that.

No need.

Now as for the GHC or whatever they call themselves goes, i just don't understand the point. In the states the guys who wanna do all the kick-ass moves (and lets face it some of the stuff your friends were doing was pretty cool) stay at the back and 'dance' to the music without colliding with the crowd. The folks who wanna actually watch the bands get up in the front, lets face it you can't actually watch a band while you're dancing like that now can you?

Like I say, the people that were with us aren't called "GHC"..

No-one is. All it is, is a shortning of the term "Glasgow Hardcore" nothing else mate.

Which is a style of music, from glasgow!

You get me?

Theres no gang, and no bunch of people.

I didn't see anyone INTENTIONALLY doing it into other people, or going out the way too hurt other people all night. So I really don't see the problem.

If theres people "belly moshing" and barging into other people, then I dont have a problem with that either, If I dont want pushed Ill move away.

For those of us who've lived with Hardcore/Metal/Punk for a good 15 years of our lives to see kids behaving like that at a show disrespecting other paying members of the crowd who generally just want to enjoy seeing the bands they paid to see makes me, in particular, sick. And believe me the whole 'stay outta the kitchen' nonsense won't cut it. I personally can more than keep up with those boys but choose not to because i just wanna appreciate the music these days. That doesn't mean i appreciate having some gobby little runt flailing his arms in my face when i'm standing in an area that i deem far enough from the pit to be safe and let the guys dancing have their room.

Again, what I'm saying is, I didn't see anyone "disrespecting" anyone.

If you got hit, or banged into, then cool, whatever - then surely you will know yourself, what with going to shows for 15 years, that people do get banged into

If people are going all out to INJURE someone, then thats absolutely bang out of order, but I didn't see anything of the sort myself.

Let me ask you this would, would you have the same problem with these idiots if they were belly bashing and running into each other, trying to knock each other into the ground, and one of them invaded your "space" by banging into you?

If a pit breaks out near me, and all I want to do is sit and watch the band, although Id LOVE to keep standing where Iam, and have paid for the "right" to do so, I'm not going to cry about it, Im just going to get on with it and move away. Thats just me personally.

There is such a thing in the hardcore community called 'Hardcore Ettiquette' i really suggest that you get the guys who came up from Glasgow and the surrounding areas to check it out.

What is there a book on that now? ?(?(

MY ettiquette, is the same as it has always been.

If your hit someone by accident, or you hit em/bang into em whatever, i will aplogise and pick them up and get on with it.

If I get hit im not going to cry but an apology would be nice.

If I dont like it I will move away.

I try and show respect, and hope that it is reciprocal.

If theres younger/smaller people in there, I will try and watch out for them as best I can.

If they see how mad its getting but want to keep going ill still look out for them but they are there by choice, and Im not going to stop dancing enjoying myself, because younger people are there. Like I say I will watch out for them too.

After all Hardcore's main principals include Respect and Harmony, so why are there so many people fighting against these ideals these days?

I can't really comment on that, because I'm not one of them.

But whatever.

Anyway, this was a bit of a tangent.

My problem was with the comments about "neds" and over the top shit like that.

As I say, thanks for listening to us, if you don't like it then its no skin off our teeth, but if you enjoyed it it would be nice to hear about that too.

Not the best hardcore gig I've been to. I was kind of going off hardcore until I saw With Honor last week who were amazing. Tonight there was way too many macho idiots wo made it hard for anyone to have fun down the front.

"Tell everyone who know I got too much rhtyhm to waste on acting macho" - Fig 4.0

"Windmill' date=' kickbox, another kid down, learn to move to the back of the crowd" -HHH

So aye you windmill fuckwit crew kinda ruined the evening.

Today We Fight! were awesome though, they play intelligent hardcore with lyrics actually worth listening to.[/quote']

I'm sick of this fucking nae saying crap.

Kirk, your a good guy (from what I know of you) but saying that shit sucks badly.

People dance differently, you got to respect that.

I don't particularly like fat sweaty men with long hair barging in to me with no top on when Im down the front either but If I want to be down the front at a metal show I've got to deal with it.

I dont like punks skakning into me either, but again If im down the front and its going on, I have to deal with it, or go stand at the back.

From what I could see it was all kosher.

No-one was trying to hurt anyone, there were loads of folk NOT from glasgow all dancing and having a good time.....it was all in good humour, so why have you got to say shit like "glasgow kids ruined the night?"

For me, they pretty much made the show (all bias aside), they were the ones on stage grabbing the mic, singing along, and having fun.

I thought the show was particularly good natured, maybe aberdeen kids are not used to seeing people getting intensely into a band like that? I've no idea.

I really don't get where people are getting "macho posteuring" from either? I mean the dancing looks violent but its nothing to do with being macho....

Im sure if I said something along the lines of "there was too much faggy posteuring last night" I'd be getting fucking PELTERS, being called a "homophobe" and all sorts. Saying shit like that with no balls/explanation behind it is really shit.

I would have expected better.

Like they say, if you can't take the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen.

I read the stuff on the MMW forums aswell - Since im not a member on there and don't really want to start a flame war I'm not going to register to reply to all of it.

Thats cool that a few guys didnt like us, can't please everyone, you know? Can take a bit of critism aswell, no problem, but when theres guys saying we are "macho" and our guitarists "a ned" then I think your really taking it a bit far.

If playing the style of music we love is "Macho" because its slow or whatever then fuck me with a stick. We stick to playing stuff that is aurally pleasing to ourselves. Deal with it. If you don't like it then thats cool, I don't play music to please other people, we do it for ourselves, and hope theres people out there that share the same taste.

We aren't trying to be macho, and don't have macho attitudes. We work hard at what we do and thats that. Theres no "posteuring" or bullshit, we are nice guys and Im sure if you ask anyone thats had a "proper" experiance of speaking to us they will tell you the same.

Also, Last time I checked, wearing a New Era Bucket Cap didnt make you a non-educated delinquint(sp? whatever). I don't know what neds are like up in aberdeen, but down here its more than just a dress sense, its a fucking mentality and the way you act.

Bit fucking ridiculous slating someone as being a NED for no real reason other than their "accent" and their hat....

He's been one of my best mates for years and Ill defend the dude to the ends of the earth.

No-one that was there tried to start any fights this time or last time we played the moorings bar. (to the dude that said they saw us last time, Cloud or whatever? - we brought NOONE with us. The only people that came with us were The Fight Back (from falkirk) and some of their friends, who are probably the least neddiest bunch of lads I know!, so I really don't know how you've got came to the conclusion that we brought neds to the show to start fights with people). There is no "crew" or gang from Glasgow. There is a bunch of hardcore bands from glasgow. Glasgow Harcore (GHC). It could easily be EHC (edinburgh hardcore) or anything else depending on where you are from. No gangs, no bullshit.

ANYWAY -

I had a good night.

Bit gutted I missed Today We Fight, but shit happens (Drummer & bus problems). Ill catch em again soon hopefully.

Blacklisted - Well dissapointed. Amazing on record, but didnt do it for me live.

Donnybrook - really suprised me! Dont like them that much on record but live they had to going on.

Terror - All accusations and "bullshit gossip" aside, they are a tight ass live band, and no doubt work hard at what they do. Their music is fast, hard and intense. The way hardcore should be.

Good night all in all, cheers to Jamesy for the show, it was a pleasure. and cheers to JimTWF for the help with everything.

Sorry for the rant, if I offended anyone, or anyone has a problem with what Im saying, feel free to drop me a PM/Email whatever...or speak to me the next time you see us.

Later.

bUmpoooooo!

By My Hands are on this show also.

http://www.myspace.com/bymyhands

this is soon, get excited kiddies!

BUMP.

Have their been no posts about this yet or am I totally missing it?

*****ONLY SCOTTISH DATE******

Terror

Donnybrook!

Blacklisted

BY MY HANDS

Today We Fight

+14's ( I think)

Moshulu

Aberdeen

Doors around 7pm I should imagine.

Tix are around £8 as far as I know! In all the usual outlets, and from the venue itself.

Who's going?

And if there has already been a thread about this could someone link me?

Cheers.

Maybe he will see this.

can someone from the moorings tell me how to get the recording they did of my band?

I knew I shouldnt have bought him some Jager...haha

So basically what does it cost for a band to be reocrded at the moorings?

Can bands record live at the moorings?

Still come to the gig though.

its xFEMALERANTATTHESTARTOFYOURCDCOREx haha.

Buckfast is for wimps.

MD 20/20 stuff of champions

SXE metalcore kids? haha didnt realise having one stragiht edger in a band made your band straight edge neil

interested in hearing The Fight Back and Azriel. Heard a song by By My Hands that Robin recorded' date=' and was less than impressed. but i may come along anyway. just so that I can finger Neil's ear lobes.[/quote']

You should still go - not liking one band out of a bill of 4 is hardly an off putting thing is it!

Stand and drink cider outside while we play

This will be our first time in the deen, will be cool to see whats its like and meet the fine locals eh.

Fuck off you english pleb!

Thanks for all the responses.

I thought trying these boards were a shot in the dark, but everyone has been really helpful so thanks!

Im sure thats incorrect.

There is a beer from Belgium called "The Worlds Strongest Beer" (obviously this is in belgian but i cant translate)

Grandad brought some back from belgium the old rascal!

Also would you happen to have a contact for Ross @ the Moshulu?

Cheers in advance!

MP3 is pretty damned good' date=' but your website is broken.

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It works fine, but for some reason Norton Firewall doesnt like the code on it so if your running that all the images will appear as red x's.

Stuart - Yeah, I've advertised on alot of those boards aswell, including DeadandGone down in england, getting quite a good response with regards to playing shows in places.

Noone has contacted me from abderdeen yet...Ive took the advice of you guys though and emailed sharon@drakes, and PM'd Mr Kirk-t.

I'll see where that gets me, thanks again for the help.