ThanksAttack Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Remeber to catch copy haho with Fickle Public and Distophia on Friday night at Moshulu. Tickets 4 on the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 I thought thats what a band was.Is it just the lack of any particular image that they were projecting that you weren't keen on? I'm not trying to wind you up but I'm not sure where you're coming from.The lack of an image, which they did have when they played their EP launch at the Lemon Tree. Although Stephen's granny-style blouse had something going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 i get the whole thing about a band having a cohesive image but i just don't think it's key. unless you're blue. plus it would only lead to more unhealthy interpol comparisons i think. i wouldn't have minded so much if mariner had said something about the music on the night and then as an extra added something about the image. i still wouldn't think it mattered but at least i'd know someone was listening rather than frowning at our scruffy clothes.incidentally we once tried to make a visual impact by wearing lab coats. jesus. not a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 i get the whole thing about a band having a cohesive image but i just don't think it's key. unless you're blue. plus it would only lead to more unhealthy interpol comparisons i think. i wouldn't have minded so much if mariner had said something about the music on the night and then as an extra added something about the image. i still wouldn't think it mattered but at least i'd know someone was listening rather than frowning at our scruffy clothes.incidentally we once tried to make a visual impact by wearing lab coats. jesus. not a success.I'm not saying you should dress like you did at the Lemon Tree that time but i think it's best to have a certain degree of uniformity in a band image with room for individualism. Pink Leotards would look good i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 I'm not saying you should dress like you did at the Lemon Tree that time but i think it's best to have a certain degree of uniformity in a band image with room for individualism. Pink Leotards would look good i think.yea i get that, and usually we do(at least me rob and steven anyway) try and all wear shirts at least but man, really, sometimes you just can't be assed. sometimes it has to be a t-shirt and jeans. i think we should dress like stormtroopers. how's that for uniformity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ancient Mariner Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 i wouldn't have minded so much if mariner had said something about the music on the night and then as an extra added something about the image. i still wouldn't think it mattered but at least i'd know someone was listening rather than frowning at our scruffy clothes.I was deliberately failing to take you seriously' date=' because I'm not sure you take yourself seriously, what with between-song banter and dress-down Friday look (i'm not dissing btw.........well maybe a little). With regards to your music, I prefered it when you had tunes rather than [i']fortissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntedbyafreak Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 i think we should dress like stormtroopers. how's that for uniformity?Dave, I would love you forever if you did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 yea i get that' date=' and usually we do(at least me rob and steven anyway) try and all wear shirts at least but man, really, sometimes you just can't be assed. sometimes it has to be a t-shirt and jeans. i think we should dress like stormtroopers. how's that for uniformity?[/quote']Yeah, some good fascist undertones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ancient Mariner Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 you looked like you couldn't be arsed, and that affects the crowds willingness to devote their attention to you. To be fair tho, i won't know what the most suitable stagecraft is until we play live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 I was deliberately failing to take you seriously' date=' because I'm not sure you take yourself seriously, what with between-song banter and dress-down Friday look (i'm not dissing btw.........well maybe a little). With regards to your music, I prefered it when you had tunes rather than [i']fortissimowe take our music seriously but don't take ourselves seriously. we used to be a lot noisier than we are now so i don't get the fortissimo bit. don't really know why you used that word anyway, trying to prove something? why not just say volume or loud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 we take our music seriously but don't take ourselves seriously. we used to be a lot noisier than we are now so i don't get the fortissimo bit. don't really know why you used that word anyway' date=' trying to prove something? why not just say volume or loud?[/quote']Cos he likes flowery language. Now who's the shit that stole a scene point from me? I was pretty diplomatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ancient Mariner Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 we take our music seriously but don't take ourselves seriously. we used to be a lot noisier than we are now so i don't get the fortissimo bit. don't really know why you used that word anyway' date=' trying to prove something? why not just say volume or loud?[/quote']because "....had loud" doesn't really work. Anyway, it's not just a question of volume, but of a symphonic intesity, with you bashing out the power chords. The inevitable explosion in every song (bar the first 2, which were very good) were indistinguishable from one another, with intensity seemingly the aim rather than musical depth. This is ok every now and then, but it became tedious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 you looked like you couldn't be arsed' date=' and that affects the crowds willingness to devote their attention to you. To be fair tho, i won't know what the most suitable stagecraft is until we play live[/quote']Yeah it would be like if pavement reformed, played a gig at the tunnels and didn't wear sharp suits. I wouldn't be interested at all.EDIT: I thought this was directed at the shirt/jeans thing, in reflection i'm not so sure. If not then just direct this to jimmy jazz's post on the same subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ancient Mariner Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Yeah it would be like if pavement reformed' date=' played a gig at the tunnels and didn't wear sharp suits. I wouldn't be interested at all.EDIT: I thought this was directed at the shirt/jeans thing, in reflection i'm not so sure. If not then just direct this to jimmy jazz's post on the same subject.[/quote']No, it was directed at the shirt/jeans thing. The half-assed look, playing of instruments and singing is part of Pavement's unique and enduring appeal, whereas Dedalus do not practice this chic, instead they are a serious band (as Dave just said). It wasn't just their clothes that gave this impression, Dave actually looked bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 No' date=' it was directed at the shirt/jeans thing. The half-assed look, playing of instruments and singing is part of Pavement's unique and enduring appeal, whereas Dedalus do not practice this chic, instead they are a serious band (as Dave just said). It wasn't just their clothes that gave this impression, Dave actually looked bored.[/quote']oh fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ancient Mariner Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 oh fuck off.Hey, at least I was there. And I didn't talk while the bands were playing (as 2/3s of the Tennents-swigging crowd did) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF Scott Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 No' date=' it was directed at the shirt/jeans thing. The half-assed look, playing of instruments and singing is part of Pavement's unique and enduring appeal, whereas Dedalus do not practice this chic, instead they are a serious band (as Dave just said). It wasn't just their clothes that gave this impression, Dave actually looked bored.[/quote'] on the contrary, I thought Dedalus were at their most "we are enjoying playing these songs"-ness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qzdiablo Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 if i was ever in a band i'd make a point of performing completely nude to avoid some of the shit criticisms aimed at dedalus in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neil ex Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 They don't have to worry about avoiding that critism.. Like you said it's shit critism. Dedalus aren't rockstars, so why do they need an image? I think something appealing about Mogwai is that they just come across as normal blokes having a laugh, and enjoying what they do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Former Pisshead Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I actually enjoyed watching the bands at that time! I never was a fan of the Politik EP but I really enjoyed them this time, Dedalus were great as ever although I thought they were a bit more loose probaly because they looked so tired. Also im not sure about the Polka song yet though i've only heard it once so its bound to grow on me. Still one of my favorite bands though. Hookers Green were my favourites though on Saturday and it was good to see some melodica action. I must look for one myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazel rainey Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 you looked like you couldn't be arsed' date=' and that affects the crowds willingness to devote their attention to you. To be fair tho, i won't know what the most suitable stagecraft is until we play live[/quote']well if you are putting your looks high up in your list God help you.A great look is not going to get you anywhere. The ability to play andsing has to be top of your list and then maybe sometime the look will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NARC Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 What was the Copy Haho setlist closer? - Impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NARC Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 i get the whole thing about a band having a cohesive image but i just don't think it's key. unless you're blue. plus it would only lead to more unhealthy interpol comparisons i think. i wouldn't have minded so much if mariner had said something about the music on the night and then as an extra added something about the image. i still wouldn't think it mattered but at least i'd know someone was listening rather than frowning at our scruffy clothes.incidentally we once tried to make a visual impact by wearing lab coats. jesus. not a success.I walked past you on back wynd yesterday and you were wearing a black cashmere coat with grey scarf - not scruffy at all. What you wear is important, aesthetics, lighting, backdrop etc. are all key components of good bands. Match the effort you put into your songs by creating some sort of unique style too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbore Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 the last song we played on saterday night was called memento, its on the ep, though it's been re-arranged - thanks for the interest.joe.copy haho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I walked past you on back wynd yesterday and you were wearing a black <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=32&k=cashmere%20coat" onmouseover="window.status='cashmere coat'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">cashmere coat</a> with grey scarf - not scruffy at all. What you wear is important' date=' aesthetics, lighting, backdrop etc. are all key components of good bands. Match the effort you put into your songs by creating some sort of unique style too.[/quote']Yeah, there's totally a market there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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