Rob Karloff Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4261227.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Quite right too, a convenient escape to pin it on a scapegoat like Manson, rather than examine the rotten core of society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Indeed, it sounds like his Mum was a bit too *close* for a mother/son relationship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Defence QC Donald Findlay said the fight to clear Mitchell's name would continue. He told the court: "So long as that young man maintains to me he did not kill Jodi the fight to clear his name will go on."As long as they're still providing cash I presume... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Quite right too' date=' a convenient escape to pin it on a scapegoat like Manson, rather than examine the rotten core of society.[/quote']exactly...not once has the parents been blamed or the school system. It takes more than one rockstar too fuck up a guys head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubbs Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 funny how the media blames rock music for the kid killing Jodie, it'd be a different story if he listened to dance music wouldn't it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 As long as they're still providing cash I presume...Findlay is a disgusting individual, I have met the man and he is just a complete and utter arsehole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fat_bottom_girls Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 complete bollocks this whole jodi pish! To use satanism, goth, and good old mariyln manson as a reason in a court room is just utter bollocks. It really annoys me that this kind of thing still goes on today! The meida twists everything and it is the medias fault for most of the worlds problems. surely they should a questioned his shcool, his parents, his up bringing, rather than pin the balme on a bloody musician! tis an utter farce! it is a great shame however that a kid died in this way, but the jailing of Luke and the marilyn manson blame has shadowed the fact that a Jodie was killed in a horrible way and that is shame. Darn bloody media fuck em! this world is just getting silly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Lead Soup Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Lock up the so-called parents. Fucking irresponsible dolts.They've even went as far as to blame schools for truancy figures aswell. Laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Karloff Posted February 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 I don't think you can rule out Manson's work as an influence on what happened, but the root cause is that Mitchell had that mindset to begin with. There are many rogue influences on people in life, which may or may not cause them to do something bad. But we can't and don't go around banning them on the offchance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim.. Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Quite right too' date=' a convenient escape to pin it on a scapegoat like Manson, rather than examine the rotten core of society.[/quote']We all know we should be blaming Ozzy Osbourne. The true Prince of Darkness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 We all know we should be blaming Ozzy Osbourne. The true Prince of Darkness. There is no way the prince of darkness would have a birmingham accent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 funny how the media blames rock music for the kid killing Jodie' date=' it'd be a different story if he listened to dance music wouldn't it...[/quote']of course it would be. cos dance music doesn't have images and lyrics about death, rape, murder and suicide. it's pretty simple.im not saying i agree with the courts, but it's pretty easy to see why they blamed music of the type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfaar_giladi Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 funny how the media blames rock music for the kid killing Jodie' date=' it'd be a different story if he listened to dance music wouldn't it...[/quote']I don't know, dance music makes me want to kill people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer_eldritch Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 I don't know' date=' dance music makes me want to kill people.[/quote']tell me about it o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delly Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 there could be more reasons other then the learnt behavour maybe he was born that way the whole nature vs nurture debate, there was one study a long time ago showing something about the brain of some killers being differnt (in a small way) to other human beings.hahaha I make no sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connie Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 I don't think you can rule out Manson's work as an influence on what happened' date=' but the root cause is that Mitchell had that mindset to begin with. There are many rogue influences on people in life, which may or may not cause them to do something bad. But we can't and don't go around banning them on the offchance.[/quote']I agree with this guy.And it's not as if Manson was randomly mentioned in court. The cuts and markings on Jodi's body were identical to those on a female corpse in a painting by Marilyn Manson.Thus proving he was an influence to the killing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowball Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 I don't understand how they can blame Manson's paintings of something that actually happened but not blame the media, who no doubt reported on it and gave every single bloody detail of the case. What's the difference between an artistic depiction of a murder and the tabloids giving their own gruesome account with every horrific detail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 I agree with this guy.And it's not as if Manson was randomly mentioned in court. The cuts and markings on Jodi's body were identical to those on a female corpse in a painting by Marilyn Manson.Thus proving he was an influence to the killing.Perhaps an influence but a reason? Nope. Manson is simply a guy who knows how to manipulate the media by using shock, he is also nae bad at making tunes that sell many records. If the guy who killed Jodi was influenced by Manson it just shows how fucked up he was before he got into Manson's music and how easily deluded he can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I agree with this guy.And it's not as if Manson was randomly mentioned in court. The cuts and markings on Jodi's body were identical to those on a female corpse in a painting by Marilyn Manson.Thus proving he was an influence to the killing.Given that the painting was a depiction of a real event, perhaps it had more to do with him being inspired by that real event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fat_bottom_girls Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rach_69 Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 of course it would be. cos dance music doesn't have images and lyrics about death' date=' rape, murder and suicide. it's pretty simple.im not saying i agree with the courts, but it's pretty easy to see why they blamed music of the type.[/quote'] yeah but what if, for example, it was rap music?would they go blaming rappers for it? well, one specific?i think the guys mother had alot to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 yeah but what if' date=' for example, it was rap music?would they go blaming rappers for it? well, one specific?i think the guys mother had alot to do with it[/quote']Rap's probably a bad example - the media will blame rap just as quickly as alternative music. Remember when Snoop Dogg was the devil on the front of the Sun?I wish someone would do something stupid that everyone could blame on pop music or something just to see if the media would latch onto the link...Perhaps someone could commit matricide after only listening to Scissor Sisters for months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyQuinn Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 i think the guy was a pretty fucked individual and he listened to that sort of music becuase he felt he could identify with it. Manson is just a really easy person to blame because everyone is doing it. His relationship with his mother is clearly something that should be looked into further becuase soething doesnt really seem right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Karloff Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Perhaps someone could commit matricide after only listening to Scissor Sisters for months.Maybe you could take your momma out all night and show her what it's all about. Get her jacked up on some cheap champagne, and let her guts all roll on out. When she dies of the alcohol poisoning or vomit choking, then you can blame shitty camp pop music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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