Birdman Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Taken from another place online:Nowadays, you can see lots of people trying to save certain animals from being mistreated, like protecting the sharks or whales from being hunted. But I can't see the diference between eating a steak and killing a shark.Anyway, they are all life forms.In China, people from other countries are attempting to save bears from being used as a source of gall bile by the chinese farmers. But why not save the poor chickens in commercial farms which are kept in very tiny cages which do not even have enough space for them to turn a round!!Maybe we should all stop eating meat!It's not unhealthy or lacking enough essentials because all the vegetarians around the world are still perfectly fine and healthy.Now the main problem is:- Should we continue eating meat as the world's population continues to expand rapidly??- Or should we stop eating meat and everyone changes to become a vegetarian?(since it's considered to be cruel to kill other life forms)Benefits of becoming a vegetarian:Freedom for all farm animals!Eating less unhealthy foodNo need to cut any animal bodies or organs=> more convienient & less messEating more healthy food!No more interference with the animals' life and death.Increase in animal population!More animals to conduct researches on.No more artificially caused extinction of any animals!and many more!!!(not birdman) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tristen Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Maybe we should like totally just all hug the trees and smoke a reefer dude...Fuckin hippies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulDW Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 I wouldnt really call Adam a hippy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted November 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Maybe we should like totally just all hug the trees and smoke a reefer dude...Fuckin hippies.A/ I'm not supporting this you cunt!! - Tristenb/ This isn't Adam hence (not birdman) - PaulDWPersonally I think It'd be a good idea however to reduce the amount of meat we produce. If that fials then fucking kill all the people and machines that produce processed meat because some of the stuff they do is totally appaling i.e Injecting chicken with beef protiens from unknown areas of the animal so it can hold more chemicals and water.selling the unusable pulp beat thats been pushed through a mesh screen for 30pence a kkilogram, washing it down and binding it together with many chamicals and other meat forms to sell in the supermarket at 15 per kilo. As one reputable person involved in the governmental end of managing the safety of this meat stated "Its become more profitable than dealing Crack cocaine on the street" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulDW Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 My apologies I didn't see that.. Wouldn't it be easier to set up a new account for yourself then?I think you have an interesting point there... I have tried though to get motivated by this issue, but I really struggle. There is no doubt that these folk dealing with processed meat are in the wrong, but in mnay cases by law, what they are doing can sometimes be within the law... I just try and only eat fresh meat anyway when I do, processed meat really ain't the way to go in my opinion.But I can't get away from the fact that I enjoy eating meat... So I am a little biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameroon Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Think we should eat meat, it tastes good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepeep Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 I think we should be omnivores, as that's what we are.as for the comparison between chickens and bears ... depends if the bear is endangered or not, I assume that there are a damnd sight more chickens than bears, and chickens take weeks to reproduce, bears don't.I am all for good animal husbandry, I abhor factory farming, I always buy free range / organic, this might be pointless, but, at least I factor it into my buying habits.If anything, cannibalism should be encouraged, as there are too many stupid humans on this planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tristen Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 A/ I'm not supporting this you cunt!! - TristenIt's all good... I'm gunning for whoever wrote this, not the messanger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Tam o' Shantie Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 !!! Defiled farmland wont sustain life. What can you do to end the hunger? When there is no grain to feed the butchered cows, when there is no grain to feed yourselves, then you will see that money cant be eaten !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepeep Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 native south american farmers had it right, be a part of the land, use it for a while, and move on, let it regrow, blanace its self out...All aboriginal peoples seem to have the correct way of living with the land, respect and "take what you need", not based on greed ...sadly, I can't see that working in these times of greed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendlybikerdude Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 (since it's considered to be cruel to kill other life forms)but....... ......More animals to conduct researches on......Eh????Ok to test products but not to eat?I see animals as there for us to use for our consumption, not to be cruel but to use for our need.human life is more valuable to me than an animal's life, and I don't see why we need stop eating lovely meat.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted November 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 native south american farmers had it right' date=' be a part of the land, use it for a while, and move on, let it regrow, blanace its self out...All aboriginal peoples seem to have the correct way of living with the land, respect and "take what you need", not based on greed ...sadly, I can't see that working in these times of greed.[/quote']This is pretty much the problem I think in a nutshell. Perhaps if meat were largely subsidised in our diets, then we could damage these ridiculous factory farms huge profits.Personally I think its time to get back to basics and whip the fuckin wigwams out!(not birdman) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachie Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Difference between killing a cow and killing a shark for respective meat:The sharks most often killed for their meat are endangered.Cows are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Kong Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Meat tastes good. It's natural to eat meat. Animals in the wild do it. People do it. Therefore, eat meat. Especially rare steaks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameroon Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 We as mammels are designed to eat meat, our digestive systems from the day we are born are made for meat. So why fight it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neubeatz Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 There are enough resources to feed the worlds population with ease, just not the compassion required to enable it.If you look at large parts of South America that appear to have been turned over to grass land to fatten cows to put burgers in Bejing Macs, then there is wholesale mismanagement of the resources of our planet,If the same effort was put into sustainable resource production, then ..................Some people never get meat, its too expensive, they get neep bree, mmmmmmmmmmCapitalism will eat itself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allsystemsfail Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Maybe we should like totally just all hug the trees and smoke a reefer dude...Fuckin hippies.Hippies? A suggestion. Forget the stereotypes. Have been vegan for 18 years. Was vegetarian before that. I ain't no hippy. And I don't smoke dope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allsystemsfail Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Think we should eat meat' date=' it tastes good[/quote']And so because it tastes good we should ignore the cruel treatment in the raising and slaughter of animals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allsystemsfail Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 as for the comparison between chickens and bears ... depends if the bear is endangered or not' date=' I assume that there are a damnd sight more chickens than bears, and chickens take weeks to reproduce, bears don't.[/quote']It matters not whether the animal being abused is a bear or chicken. Cruelty is cruelty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allsystemsfail Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 (since it's considered to be cruel to kill other life forms)but....... ......More animals to conduct researches on......Eh????Ok to test products but not to eat?I see animals as there for us to use for our consumption' date=' not to be cruel but to use for our need.human life is more valuable to me than an animal's life, and I don't see why we need stop eating lovely meat....[/quote']Animal life, as is all nature, is not the servant of man. Humans have no special place. To believe so is arrogance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 And so because it tastes good we should ignore the cruel treatment in the raising and slaughter of animals?Yes, yes we should because there is nothing better than a rare cooked steak!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplefrodo Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 the thing is a tiger wouldn't think twice about eating me if it were hungry and i was lying bleeding in the middle of the rain-forest, yet i cannot eat i tiger when i am hungry...so i'll have to settle for chickens and cows, theres more of them anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allsystemsfail Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Meat tastes good. It's natural to eat meat. Animals in the wild do it. People do it. Therefore' date=' eat meat. Especially rare steaks...[/quote']It is ridiculous to compare the eating habits of humans with that of animals. Non human animals eat flesh as they must. They do so instinctively. They cannot consider as we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplefrodo Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 an the whole arrogance thing is stupid, just because somebody belives they are more musically talented than other people thus decide to form a band to prove it, your arrogant carnivore theory would say he shouldn't be aloud to make music...sound fucked up, is fucked up, probably doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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