Daniel Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 seventh street records, someone told me about them but couldent name a single band on them, so do they actually have anyone signed up or is it just some school boy day dreaming about breaking the music industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 http://www.google.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gilly Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 If you're trying to have a dig at Ewan.. save your breathyou've been beaten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 hi is that the guy from jedi, im not taking the piss out of this label at all im just interested to learn a bit more about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HARRY Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 I think it was fairly obvious you were taking the piss out of him with the "schoolboy" comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 I think it was fairly obvious you were taking the piss out of him with the "schoolboy" commentnope' date=' i got it from this just wonderd if it was true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Gilman Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 don't all labels start as ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 I think it was fairly obvious you were taking the piss out of him with the "schoolboy" commentI'm sure Tempercalm would be pissing themselves about being associated with a label dissed by a 'programer'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 don't all labels start as ideas?True but most labels know what a release form is, and when asked why they never got release forms for their releases came up with something better than 'it's too much hassle'. The release will protect the label and the artist. Fair enough its a learning curve but there is research that should be done to protect the artist and the label before you start. This isn't a dig, more just I think that people will not look on SSR as a professional company until he has that kind of thing sorted. CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HARRY Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 I'm sure Tempercalm would be pissing themselves about being associated with a label dissed by a 'programer'...Pardon my ignorance, but i dont understand what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Pardon my ignorance' date=' but i dont understand what you mean.[/quote']It was mainly meant as a negative comment to anyone who'd rag on Moshulu, Spike, MMw, 7SR, F&TRB or whoever over a message board and expect it to be any kind of genuine diss.The fact he [Daniel] lists being a 'programer' on his profile made me focus on his spelling mistake.I hate spelling mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HARRY Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 It was mainly meant as a negative comment to anyone who'd rag on Moshulu' date=' Spike, MMw, 7SR, F&TRB or whoever over a message board and expect it to be any kind of genuine diss.The fact he [Daniel'] lists being a 'programer' on his profile made me focus on his spelling mistake.I hate spelling mistakes.Ah, I understandApoligies for my lack of thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 It was mainly meant as a negative comment to anyone who'd rag on Moshulu' date=' Spike, MMw, 7SR, F&TRB or whoever over a message board and expect it to be any kind of genuine diss.The fact he [Daniel'] lists being a 'programer' on his profile made me focus on his spelling mistake.I hate spelling mistakes.tell you what ill take it off.anyway im serously not dissing this label, all i wanted to know is litterally who they are. if i was taking the piss out of them i would say somthing evil or cheeky, the school boy thing i got from another thread, i have only joint these boreds a few weeks ago and had no idea about the pictures posted of that ewan guy.anyway their website doesent have much info on them, i just wonderd if they were still around or have given up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.M Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 anyway their website doesent have much info on them' date=' i just wonderd if they were still around or have given up[/quote']That sites out of date if I remember correctly. SSR site Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 That sites out of date if I remember correctly. SSR site Meh.cheers that has cleared up what i was asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skittles Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 hahahaatempercalm have moved to his label? they were on ddg/interlude earlier this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Strictly speaking a label is not a label unless it is a member of PPL because it won't be using the appropriate release forms. It should also, idealy, barcode its products. It should also fill out MCPS forms, even for original material.If it doesn't do all that, I would avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Strictly speaking a label is not a label unless it is a member of PPL because it won't be using the appropriate release forms. It should also' date=' idealy, barcode its products. It should also fill out MCPS forms, even for original material.If it doesn't do all that, I would avoid it.[/quote']Agreed, I'm not sure he knows what MCPS is tho, I'm against anyone signing for anyone who doesn't protect the artist or the label by at least researching proper ways of doing things. I think that if he's serious about SSR in any way shape or form then do it right from the beginning, find out procedure, get contracts drawn up and go for it,CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SeventhStreetRecords Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Who's to say I'm not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Who's to say I'm not a laughing stock?well, no one really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Strictly speaking a label is not a label unless it is a member of PPL because it won't be using the appropriate release forms. It should also' date=' idealy, barcode its products. It should also fill out MCPS forms, even for original material.If it doesn't do all that, I would avoid it.[/quote']Funny, theres a record label called Looney Tunes* who must have released maybe 50 records by now, each usually sells in excess of 5000 (if not more...some of their records have even been spied in the Cavern for the price of 25, so you know they're great records!!! ....the two guys behind the label have actually have folk from MCPS at their house demanding they fill out forms and shit, and they have refused, for over 15 years......no barcodes too....250,000 sales...but I guess they're not really a record label are they (* and several hundred more similar minded labels around the world) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Funny' date=' theres a record label called Looney Tunes* who must have released maybe 50 records by now, each usually sells in excess of 5000 (if not more...some of their records have even been spied in the Cavern for the price of 25, so you know they're great records!!! ....the two guys behind the label have actually have folk from MCPS at their house demanding they fill out forms and shit, and they have refused, for over 15 years......no barcodes too....250,000 sales...but I guess they're not really a record label are they (* and several hundred more similar minded labels around the world)[/quote']OK MCPS is in general a good thing for musicians, and a label should be looking out for musicians well being as i see it. The other thing is I'm pretty sure he sends the artists he wants to release things like release forms. Something whihc is important to protect both label and artist. No offense but anyone who's excuse for not sending a release form is 'it's too much hassle' shouldn't be running anything near a label. CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 True but most labels know what a release form is' date=' and when asked why they never got release forms for their releases came up with something better than 'it's too much hassle'. The release will protect the label and the artist. Fair enough its a learning curve but there is research that should be done to protect the artist and the label before you start. This isn't a dig, more just I think that people will not look on SSR as a professional company until he has that kind of thing sorted. CheersStuart[/quote']What the smeg is a release form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkt Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 i think you'll find household name records dont include barcodes and are home to capdown, five knuckle, captain everything etc...some labels like asian man records, boss tuneage dont do contracts...you can have a good label built on trust and a few beers like fierce panda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 What the smeg is a release form?Just what it sounds like, a form you sign that states a label has the right to release your stuff. Usually happens if you're putting one track onto a compilation and not signing a deal that would cover the points. It basically states whatever you agree, such as that this song will only ever be used for that one compilation and that the rights etc still all belong to you, and that you agree to them using it. It protects artist and record company. If say, for example SSR release a track by a and because they've saif thats ok, it could be seen by the band as misrepresenting them as signed to SSR and they might decide to change their mind, or something might happen that means they no longer want to be associated with the label. With no release form whats to stop them stating that they didn't give permission for the track to be used and potentially and legally stop the compilation going ahead. A release form basically is a legally binding document signed by both parties stating that the label has got permission to release that song regardless of the band changing their mind. It also allows the artist to make sure that the label only ave the right to release the song once - ususally. If you as an act suddenly become famous it stops the label putting out what you may later deem to be substandard recordings of you, and misrepresenting you, and making money off the back of you that you may never see. Some bands are happy to go ahead as KirkT pointed out without the legal assurances etc, but I have to admit it's not something I'm particularly comfortable with, not in this day anf age. CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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