jaimi Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Just checked the news to find that the goverment has banned smoking in public places today. Pubs are fecked now. But give me your veiws Okay we have til spring 2006, but i am unsure wether this is when all will be changed or a deadline to be sorted by.As a smoker I feel this is an invasion of my human rights. I understand that smoking is deadly for me and others around me but so the fuck are cars, i see no ban there, whats next an alcohol ban in bars.The title of this thread should read "Smoking banned in Scottish bars" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest onlynik Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Well, they have banned leaded petrol, and the Kyoto Accord has been signed by all intellegent countries to reduce global warming by cutting emissions by 5.2% by 2010, so the governmaent are working on that level. I can't wait to have a ban in bars and clubs, I'll feel better and my clothes work stink of smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimi Posted November 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 I can't wait to have a ban in bars and clubs' date=' I'll feel better and my clothes work stink of smoke.[/quote']Ok you dont like smoking in bars and clubs, but the fact is that the pub has got no choice to optout.The fact that they reduced the pollution makes no diff (its still pulluting me and the planet, and yes I dont Drive), there are ciggeez out there that are less in both tar and nicotine (and all other dangerous substances) ban the strong ones.Same principle as the cars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayeth Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Im not bothered about the smoking ban (I dont smoke), I never really had a problem with it aslong as people don't blow it in my face.....i AM glad that I will be able to go out without my hair absorbing a smokey odour for the next few days though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimi Posted November 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Okay Hair wont be established, but mark my words violence shall increase and pub spendage shall decrease. Look at pubs in Ireland, they are reporting a major loss in sales.They are also stating that smoke cover the odors that the smoke would cover, i.e. sweat.I dont like to smoke around peeps who eat, i dont like it done around me when i eat. But to say that I CANT smoke in a pub is wrong. I hope that some pubs shall rebel against the law and allow smokers.No smoking in bars will result in less peeps visiting bars = reduced alcahol sales = more pubs will close and with so few good pubs in Aberdeen, your fav pub could get shut and where will you be (not in you fav pub thats for sure).I rant, I know, but this is wrong. I'll sit miles away from the bar in a dark corner.If this sticks I demand that pubs shelters outside! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmmm Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 quit smoking baby....problem solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimi Posted November 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 You know as well as I do that I enjoy my ciggeez. Yeah from time to time I dont, but on the whole I do. plus it's an addiction that I wish no to kick. One day maybe but not today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 The title of this thread should read "Smoking banned in Scottish bars"And there was me thinking it was a thread actually about E106 for a minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Yes very good Psydoll Here is my opinion-Scotland has very fresh air compared to some parts of the world, i.e. Tokyo, Mexico City, NY etc. Air pollution in Scotland is minimal, were hardly in the centre of LA! So, why doesnt the goverment health warnings and advise people to wear masks like Tokyo? Because Scotland is a clean place in comparison to many other places around the Globe.Why is smoking banned in Scotland? Because it harms people who are just wanting to drink. Drink in moderation is fine. Smoke 20 a day (which isnt that much compared to a lot of smokers) and you increase your chances of obtaining a smoke related disease by a large amount. Passive smoking, it also increases your chances of lung Cancer. Em, I dont want Lung Cancer!!! On the other side of the coin, I think the Goverment should help pubs financially because this could effect some bars although it hasnt in places like Vancouver and NY.Just my thoughts......Jaimi still rocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 A few points spring to mind: How many bands, bearing in mind that if what Mad Jack said today is true smoking will be banned in dressing rooms as well as stages, will hotfoot it to Scotland for a tour? Who's going to grass up the guy who's first to light up in the Belmont Bar? Who's going to tell the prisoners in the Bar-L that they can't smoke any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayeth Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Em' date=' I dont want Lung Cancer!!![/quote']Best point ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Ok you dont like smoking in bars and clubs' date=' but the fact is that the pub has got no choice to optout.The fact that they reduced the pollution makes no diff (its still pulluting me and the planet, and yes I dont Drive), there are ciggeez out there that are less in both tar and nicotine (and all other dangerous substances) ban the strong ones.Same principle as the cars![/quote']You're missing something quite important....as most smokers do....we need transportation to get all the consumer goodies to our shops, to get us all to work and play...The world would survive as we know it without fucking fags...!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragudave Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Who's going to tell the prisoners in the Bar-L that they can't smoke any more?As far as I remember smoking in prisons / mental health hospitals will still be allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I could live with the ban if there was a choice. I understand that at the moment non-smokers have no choice but I don't really see how depriving me of choice makes it better. Since 75% of people in Scotland indicated they didn't want a ban in pubs/clubs, surely a compromise where pubs/clubs with adequate air filtering systems were allowed to let people smoke would be fairer. That way, if I wanted a pint and a fag, I wouldn't have to hide away in my own house with a can of beer and non-smokers would have a large choice of smoke free pubs to enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I do agree with a lot of you points. One aspect is that I dont find it fair to breathe in other peoples smoke, Id be almost as well to smoke myself. However as Soundian pointed out an alternative would good for the smokers. Perhaps ventilated smoking rooms/areas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 As far as I remember smoking in prisons / mental health hospitals will still be allowed.So if you're a criminal or mentally ill it's okay but if you're a law-abiding pub-goer it's not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 As far as I remember smoking in prisons / mental health hospitals will still be allowed. He started off saying it would be banned, but then said that some compromise would be found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I really can't see this mollycoddling working very well at all. As a relatively heavy smoker, I am fully aware of the risks I run by continuing to smoke. I find the mental health benefits I derive from it balance out the health risks. I have no problem with better ventilation in bars/clubs, which would be a far better solution for all and does not breach my human rights.On a side note, can you imagine what Windmill Brae would be like on a Friday or Saturday night if people had to nip outside for a smoke? Moshulu-goers and Drum-goers congregating together outside? Powderkeg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 On a side note' date=' can you imagine what Windmill Brae would be like on a Friday or Saturday night if people had to nip outside for a smoke? Moshulu-goers and Drum-goers congregating together outside? Powderkeg.[/quote']You will get to see that soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Laura@TMB Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I wonder if Mr McConnell will be going out for a few pints at his local pub this weekend? Perhaps not I think.... he might find himself barred ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Hog, I thought you did smoke? you were smoking on Saturday??and in Ireland, it wasn't too bad. most pubs had little beer gardens/back bits with shelters for people to go outside and smoke in, and they were allwoed to take their pints. It became kind of a social thing to go outside for a fag and have a chat with different people. Was a cunt in Dublin went it was pouring rain though.of course, I'd rather smoking just stayed in pubs. I like pints and fags in a some sickening death bringing cocktail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 does not breach my human rights.Isnt it odd how smokers feel they have some god given right to polute the atmosphere I breath' date=' the by-product of you're filthy addiction can "at worst" kill [b']ME and "at best?!!" make me stink like you're disgusting ash tray, where are MY human rights....you've played the human rights card so dont pull out the 'you dont have to come into pubs' card as well.When I drink beer the by-product is urine...how would you feel if I were to piss all over you in a pub? Thats not a pleasant thought is it....but hey what the fuck it wont KILL you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Doesnt increasing my chances of lung cancer with out my consent breaching my human rights?Aye Thurisaz, Im a naughty boy from time to time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Isnt it odd how smokers feel they have some god given right to polute the atmosphere I breath' date=' the by-product of you're filthy addiction can "at worst" kill [b']ME and "at best?!!" make me stink like you're disgusting ash tray, where are MY human rights....you've played the human rights card so dont pull out the 'you dont have to come into pubs' card as well.When I drink beer the by-product is urine...how would you feel if I were to piss all over you in a pub? Thats not a pleasant thought is it....but hey what the fuck it wont KILL you.It's not revolting enough to keep you out of the pub, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 It's not revolting enough to keep you out of the pub' date=' is it?[/quote']I knew someone would bring up that old chestnut quite a lot of the time yes it is.....but why should it?But not for much longer......bring on the ban...yeehaa!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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