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On 6/27/2016 at 5:24 PM, James Broonbreed said:

I'd imagine you'll just have to fuck off back to where you came from, coz this is GREAT BRITAIN.

 

I'd also like to know this, as my partner is a foreigner from that EU.

We are in the same position except I calmed her down using the "common sense" argument.  They won't lose the right to work(and be fired because of it) and there won't be mass deportations.

This is a mess but the country/possibly countries now will survive

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I'm eligible for Irish (Polish) citizenship and an Irish (Polish) passport through having lived here for 5 years (also my wife is half Irish (Polish)) so I can go down that route if I have to and if I lose the right to work in Europe.  It does cost 900 quid tho so I'm going to wait until everything's settled and if Indyref 2 happens before seeing if I have to apply. 

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41 minutes ago, Lemonade said:

I'm eligible for Irish (Polish) citizenship and an Irish (Polish) passport through having lived here for 5 years (also my wife is half Irish (Polish)) so I can go down that route if I have to and if I lose the right to work in Europe.  It does cost 900 quid tho so I'm going to wait until everything's settled and if Indyref 2 happens before seeing if I have to apply. 

£900 seems very expensive! Anyone know what the UK equivalent is?

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1 hour ago, Hakuba Mountain Wizards said:

£900 seems very expensive! Anyone know what the UK equivalent is?

About the same, my mate has been living here for way more than five years and married to a lcoal lad (Korpse drummer) and she is eligable for a passport but doesnt have the money for it, she said it was about a grand.

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I can't see Brexit not happening. The MPs will just have more of an input in the negotiations. Seems like the majority of MPs are committed to Brexit from all the noise that has come out of today. Surely they won't vote against their constituents?

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4 hours ago, Soda van Jerk said:

I can't see Brexit not happening. The MPs will just have more of an input in the negotiations. Seems like the majority of MPs are committed to Brexit from all the noise that has come out of today. Surely they won't vote against their constituents?

MPs will be in a position to vote when they can see a clear(er) version of the specific deal we'll get. I think the referendum showed the public aren't happy but it'd be fucking idiocy to assume that the public want out at ANY COST, so an MP may well vote against Brexit if the deal we get offered is total dogshit, even if theyr constituency was pro Brexit.

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Makes a second Scottish independence referendum in the next couple of years almost a certainty though...

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A majority of MPs have always been against the leave vote, and the whole argument for parliament getting a debate and now (and not the whole argument, in this case) an act was that MPs are elected to represent their constituents on a broad range of issues and from there those MPs as collective (Parliament) call the shots.

Like Stroopy hinted at, I think just as big an issue is how extreme May's position has been and that there has already been economic fallout that has hit the Proper British People (Marmite!). 48% of voters wanted to stay in the EU. Of the 52% who voted out, some perhaps wanted ALL OUT AT ANY COST; many wanted all the benefits without free movement of people/labour (which they see, now, that they will not get; this is maybe the biggest issue); some wanted the Norway Option without understanding what the Norway situation actually is (again maybe just the previous point). Which I think my put the dampers on how many constituents feel the stand to lose over a Brexit opposition.

 

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I'm hoping if the MPs debate this, we may get some actual facts out. Farage/Boris kept spouting a "norway deal" which is, as we all know, basically abiding by the rules with no input on to which those rules are. Less lies on buses, more truths that hard-brexiters cant side step or lie past.

 

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On 03/11/2016 at 1:59 PM, Gypsum_Fantastic said:

About the same, my mate has been living here for way more than five years and married to a lcoal lad (Korpse drummer) and she is eligable for a passport but doesnt have the money for it, she said it was about a grand.

It's about 1k and Application for Permanent Residence is only £65 if you've been here permanently for more than 5 years

I wish they would stop pissing about and invoke article 50

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Amazing rhetoric from Farange and Suzanne-who-the-fuck-Evans today. Democracy, separation of the powers? No. this is about the "sovereignty of the British people" (Farange) and the "Judges should come under some sort of democratic control" (Evans). They should've been politicians here in the Socialist Paradise of Poland; here (and in China) the party loves that "centralised democracy", "will of the people" and total lack of judicial and parliamentary independence shit.

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It's been funny the last few weeks watching Americans know fuck all about how their country works. When it's closer to home, and politicians are openly threatening judges it's nowhere near as funny....

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On 11 November 2016 at 2:21 AM, MerryChristmas said:

It comes down to this: Democracy goes both ways, you cannot disregard it if it doesn't go your way, that is not democracy!

Democracy actually means that if it doesn't go your way you have the absolute right to keep trying to get it changed. Disregarding things that don't go your way is the essence of democracy. 

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Leaving the  EU makes absolutely no fucking sense. Its genuinely worrying how ignorant/deluded/retarded half the population of this country is

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